Buckwheat
7 years ago
I think that Alabama has gone off the rails with their latest abortion law. I think it's unconstitutional and should be stricken down by the SCOTUS.

"Well, show me the way
To the next whiskey bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why
Show me the way
To the next whiskey bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find
The next whiskey bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you, I tell you
I tell you we must die"

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dstieger
7 years ago
What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union
To help you along
What's going wrong?
teedubbya
7 years ago
the extremists in both parties sure are running things although I believe them to be extreme minorities within each party (folks in here excepted lol)
dstieger
7 years ago
This could backfire.
It may be just the kindling that dems need to light a fire for the next year and a half.
Not just Congressional seats, but state legislatures, too. Not to mention RBG successor.
tailgater
7 years ago
It's Alabama.
If they'd make a law to ban incest then there would be no reason for an abortion.

dstieger
7 years ago
I almost forgot....Alyssa Milano is going to fix this
Cigarlady7
7 years ago

I think that Alabama has gone off the rails with their latest abortion law. I think it's unconstitutional and should be stricken down by the SCOTUS.

"Well, show me the way
To the next whiskey bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why
Show me the way
To the next whiskey bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find
The next whiskey bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you, I tell you
I tell you we must die"

🍺

Buckwheat wrote:



Thank God my tubes are tied.... I live in Alabama. Smh
izonfire
7 years ago
I believe in personal freedom, and I resent the government trying to control individual behavior, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. Though I understand the gray area of defining when human life actually begins.

But when I read this -
"The Alabama Senate passed the bill 25-6 late Tuesday night. The law only allows exceptions "to avoid a serious health risk to the unborn child's mother," for ectopic pregnancy and if the "unborn child has a lethal anomaly." Democrats re-introduced an amendment to exempt rape and incest victims, but the motion failed on an 11-21 vote."
- I couldn't believe it.

Unconscionable
delta1
7 years ago
I see their strategy...make it so unconscionably unconstitutional in order to force it to the SCOTUS, where the anti-abortion wing of the GOP expects the new conservative majority on the bench to hear the case and enable the court to reverse Roe v Wade, or at least chip away at it by returning more sovereignty on this issue to the states...


saw a poll on abortion...more than 3 out of 4 of all Americans are in favor of abortion...

so how's it feel to have a small minority of citizens dictating to the majority, on what individuals can and cannot do, instead of the govt?

oh wait, that happened during the 2016 elections...never mind...
victor809
7 years ago
Have you read the spin on it?
Allowing an abuser to "force" an incest rape victim to get an abortion would destroy the evidence of the incestuous rape and therefore it's good to force her to have the kid.


Fking idiotic.
frankj1
7 years ago

I see their strategy...make it so unconscionably unconstitutional in order to force it to the SCOTUS, where the anti-abortion wing of the GOP expects the new conservative majority on the bench to hear the case and enable the court to reverse Roe v Wade, or at least chip away at it by returning more sovereignty on this issue to the states...


saw a poll on abortion...more than 3 out of 4 of all Americans are in favor of abortion...

so how's it feel to have a small minority of citizens dictating to the majority, on what individuals can and cannot do, instead of the govt?

oh wait, that happened during the 2016 elections...never mind...

delta1 wrote:


so, I don't think that is what you mean.
words have meaning and create/limit thoughts, feelings, and opinions... and pro-life people have made inroads in sticking the negative attachments of murder by renaming pro-choice people "pro-abortion".
Subtle but effective thought changing inside one's mind...like calling lies alternative facts.

I am strongly pro-choice. I'm personally against abortion.
I would choose not to abort if it was up to me, but it would not be up to me.
Just don't think I could live with it, but I have no say in what others do.

I wish sex education was out in the open and knowledge of birth control treated as normally as teaching how to balance a checkbook.

Forget pro-life and pro-choice. The big goal should be pro-pregnancy prevention.
Abrignac
7 years ago

I see their strategy...make it so unconscionably unconstitutional in order to force it to the SCOTUS, where the anti-abortion wing of the GOP expects the new conservative majority on the bench to hear the case and enable the court to reverse Roe v Wade, or at least chip away at it by returning more sovereignty on this issue to the states...


saw a poll on abortion...more than 3 out of 4 of all Americans are in favor of abortion...

so how's it feel to have a small minority of citizens dictating to the majority, on what individuals can and cannot do, instead of the govt?

oh wait, that happened during the 2016 elections...never mind...

delta1 wrote:



75% of US citizens support abortion? Love ya Al, but I’m going to throw the bull**** flag on that.
teedubbya
7 years ago
75% in favor of keeping row v wade
JadeRose
7 years ago

Thank God my tubes are tied.... I live in Alabama. Smh

Cigarlady7 wrote:





I'm genuinely sorry for you, although I live in Missouri so I'm not really sure why
JadeRose
7 years ago



I am strongly pro-choice. I'm personally against abortion.
I would choose not to abort if it was up to me, but it would not be up to me.
Just don't think I could live with it, but I have no say in what others do.


frankj1 wrote:





Couldn't have said it better Frank. I am Pro-Choice for 2 reasons...1.) I have daughters and I would NOT want them to have to suffer through giving birth to **** child of a rapist. It would be Fatherless as I would kill him before the $hit kid got pushed out and 2.) I have a nutsack which instantly negates me from telling another person...especially those who DON'T have one, what to do with their bodies.
frankj1
7 years ago

Couldn't have said it better Frank. I am Pro-Choice for 2 reasons...1.) I have daughters and I would NOT want them to have to suffer through giving birth to **** child of a rapist. It would be Fatherless as I would kill him before the $hit kid got pushed out and 2.) I have a nutsack which instantly negates me from telling another person...especially those who DON'T have one, what to do with their bodies.

JadeRose wrote:


stop making sense.
Gene363
7 years ago

so, I don't think that is what you mean.
words have meaning and create/limit thoughts, feelings, and opinions... and pro-life people have made inroads in sticking the negative attachments of murder by renaming pro-choice people "pro-abortion".
Subtle but effective thought changing inside one's mind...like calling lies alternative facts.

I am strongly pro-choice. I'm personally against abortion.
I would choose not to abort if it was up to me, but it would not be up to me.
Just don't think I could live with it, but I have no say in what others do.

I wish sex education was out in the open and knowledge of birth control treated as normally as teaching how to balance a checkbook.

Forget pro-life and pro-choice. The big goal should be pro-pregnancy prevention.

frankj1 wrote:




Now it gets scarier, I agree too, the government has no business up a women's skirt.

That said, the government has no business funding or in any way supporting abortion. IMO abortion is the murder of an unborn child. Reasonable exceptions are as mentioned by Jade.
delta1
7 years ago

75% of US citizens support abortion? Love ya Al, but I’m going to throw the bull**** flag on that.

Abrignac wrote:




whaddya know....I was wrong....it is closer to 8 out of 10 Americans support legal abortions...79% support abortion in some cases or in all cases...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx 

see the third graph...29% of Americans say abortions should be legal in some circumstances and 50% of Americans say abortions should be legal under any circumstance: 50 + 29 = 79%


only 18% of Americans say abortions should be illegal in all cases...
frankj1
7 years ago

Now it gets scarier, I agree too, the government has no business up a women's skirt.

That said, the government has no business funding or in any way supporting abortion. IMO abortion is the murder of an unborn child. Reasonable exceptions are as mentioned by Jade.

Gene363 wrote:


I'm not smaht enough to propose a solution that makes all happy.
..other than an all out fully funded act to promote pregnancy prevention.

I apologize up front, but I have no qualms if any religions are offended by the benefits of understanding that humans enjoy and will partake in sexual intercourse without the end goal of creating a new life.

Met my wife at age 16. Got married at age 24. Had our first child at age 28.
She was planned.

It's not that difficult to prevent pregnancy.

It's our only reasonable hope to prevent abortion. Cutting funds and access to health care for women by anti-abortion supporters is idiotic.
victor809
7 years ago
I have a solution we can all agree on...


Mandatory abortions.

Only exceptions to be granted by myself.

And I'm not likely to grant many exceptions...



Can we all agree this is the best solution?
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