Yeah, I am definitely trying to avoid HCl since I believe that is lethal? So I have not started heating things and will likely avoid buying a boiling flask to start doing it.

NaOH is Sodium Hydroxide? Unless I made it by accident this shouldn't be present?

Tittums wrote:

MgCl2 is not in this solution but I am willing to accept some contamination from previous mixes if the salts managed to form within the bag itself while evaporating.

I am just bummed about this because I didn't spend too much on the Ammonium Chloride but the smallest amount I could get on Amazon was 1 pound so I have a lot of it.

As I write this I remember it has uses in food preparation which provided more information upon searching:



Again, no expert here, but maybe I am adding too much water?

Maybe first try mixing the dry components and then put them in a sealed container with an open tub of water. See how much it absorbs under those conditions. You probably will want to make sure you add less than that to your makeshift boveda, so that it has room to absorb.

victor809 wrote:

It's all in the dose.
A little NaOH (basic) and a little HCl are not dangerous, at low concentrations. And at these concentrations are probably in the food you eat.

victor809 wrote:

Hydrogen chloride forms corrosive hydrochloric acid on contact with water found in body tissue. Inhalation of the fumes can cause coughing, choking, inflammation of the nose, throat, and upper respiratory tract, and in severe cases, pulmonary edema, circulatory system failure, and death. Skin contact can cause redness, pain, and severe skin burns. Hydrogen chloride may cause severe burns to the eye and permanent eye damage.

I am tempted to try this next since I can't make it work in solution.

Tittums wrote:

Forgive me if I am confusing things here (I am googling all of these since I do not know the abbreviations and periodic tables) but we're talking about hydrogen chloride (which would be in a gas state if heating)?

Not stuff I want to play with in any amount

Test Batch 5 ():

*10.78 gram vessel*

3G Water
4G Ammonium Chloride
1G Sodium Chloride
3G Vegetable Glycerine

Tittums wrote:

I just put an inflated pillow in a glass of water and am using the 100G weight that came with my scale to calibrate it to force it partially underwater. I can't test reversing it at the moment as my hygrometers are in use testing different salt mixes.

Tittums wrote:

This did not work, there is no water in the bag so I am going to try turning it inside out then sealing it and doing the same thing. If it were a Boveda it would be oversaturated with water.

Tittums wrote:

I don't think this would work.

Water is not equal to water vapor

I wouldn't expect water in liquid form to pass through plastic (possibly not even through a boveda, although I don't know what that's made of exactly)... by submerging your plastic bag you are ensuring it isn't in any contact with water vapor at all, only liquid water.

Honestly, I wouldn't expect a lot of vapor transfer to an empty bag either, even if it's in a high humidity container. I would expect you would need some dessicant inside that bag to provide the difference in water vapor between the two sides

victor809 wrote: