teedubbya
4 years ago

Teedubbya, gonna jack with peoples insurance because they won’t take a shot? Well fatty that’s riding around Walmart stufffkng there cart with unhealthy junk food, should they have insurance messed with since they are a ticking time bomb for a heart attack, or diabetes. They should go in a diet and eat fresh foods, exercise, etc completely preventable. What about people that rock climb, sky diving, motor cycle riders, weekend drag racers, bull riders, farm hands, farmers I could go on and on. All preforming relatively dangerous activities with as much chance of getting hurt doing that than catching COVID, should there insurance be jacked with?

Plowboy221 wrote:




Yup you can certainly go down that slope. And we do. Some of those things are already factored in to whichever health care payment ecosystem you are in. Not all systems do, but many do. And if you read what I originally wrote I said I doubt we will do so which is fine I guess, but I’m for any given payment system building such in if they choose.

Danm runs in to this with tobacco right? His payment echo system does that. My echo system rewards exercise, quitting tobacco, not drinking etc. with financial incentives and premium differences.

Some may do so with this with covid shots and I’d support it. It’s a real risk vs cost calculation similar to calculations that get made all the time. Politics or not. I’d love to get the covid costs out of my risk pool and let those rolling the bones take the chances with their wallet not mine.

And anything government funded should remove this cost. It’s just fiscally responsive and the conservative thing to do.
teedubbya
4 years ago
In this case you have a specific disease with a specific way of preventing it and some are choosing not to. It’s pretty straight forward if they get the disease why. Not too many variables involved such as tobacco or fatty foods have. Could be a pretty easy calculation to make and to point back at those driving up costs.

We won’t do it but I’d take no issue with it. People are pretty selective and one sided when preaching personal responsibility. You are willing to risk the costs here at others expense. Easily identifiable and singled out costs. It’s healthcare welfare to an extent. No you are not paying your share and haven’t earned it. That’s not to say you haven’t worked hard all your life and deserve your benefits, but you haven’t earned what you think you have in real terms.

Lots of policies have if you don’t do this we won’t pay for that. Not just healthcare. No one has earned a never ending benefit for things they can prevent. That’s not sustainable.
Brewha
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4 years ago

It's amazing that they are able to produce a mind control chip
so tiny that it can be injected through a hypodermic needle.

Absolutely amazing...

izonfire wrote:


Well, in the last few decades they packaged it in a cell phone. So, progress - ya know?
Brewha
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4 years ago
In all fairness, there are probably many here that never had to even get the minimum school shots for a back water place like Texas:
Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis/Polio/Measles, Mumps, and Rubella.

Ever had your doctor tell you to get a tetanus shot?
How could you possibly trust them?




Think of all the people that needlessly sacrificed their life’s just to “experiment” with the Polio vaccine.

What a tragic loss of life….
RayR
4 years ago
Where did government earn the right to dicktate what insurance I can and can't have and drive up costs and to the moon?
Got any policies without socialist government dicktates for stuff I don't want or have any use for? It would have to be cheaper without all that chit.
Seems to me preaching about imaginary COVID costs for vaccine deniers who statistically will never get the RONA regardless of your scare tactics doesn't impress me.
I think you are just a crony capitalist who is trying to justify artificially driving up your premiums and profits and wants the government to sign off on it.
MACS
4 years ago
Just got a tetanus shot at the start of the month. I was due.

And once again, brewahahaha with the false equivalency. Nice.
borndead1
4 years ago

Well... when I had the antibody test back in February this year it was negative. If you recall, in early 2020 I was pretty much surrounded by covid in the jail. We had inmates, deputies, nurses... all sick with it. One deputy in the jail actually passed from it and a nurses husband died from it, too... she had a hard time with it. The nurse and her husband are older (late 60's).

I figure if I was surrounded by it and either did not get it or did not die from it if I was asymptomatic... I'm good. I still have no desire to get the stupid shot.

Now in 5 years if you guinea pigs haven't developed any adverse side effects... I might.

MACS wrote:




SAME HERE, bro. Pretty sure I had the 'rona back in Feb of 2020. But I'm just sketched out about having sh*t injected into me. Imma wait and see how many people die/get f**ked up from it first before I get the jab. And I'm reading/hearing some pretty bad stories. So I will prolly just continue my daily Fresh Start Vitamins and let the chips fall where they may.
Krazeehorse
4 years ago
I’m wondering how many people I’ve killed by transmitting the flu virus. I’ve almost always been asymptomatic but I just got my first ever seasonal flu shot last fall.
teedubbya
4 years ago
Yea this is just like the flu. Forgot about that one.
Speyside
4 years ago
You also forgot about if your healthy, and if your young. BTW in July death percentages are up to 99.5 % unvaccinated. Now it isn't give me freedom or death, it's freedom and death. BUT, it is everyone's unalienable right to choose!!!
Brewha
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4 years ago

Just got a tetanus shot at the start of the month. I was due.

And once again, brewahahaha with the false equivalency. Nice.

MACS wrote:


Favor us MACS, how is the Rona vaccine different that the others?
Why are they not equivalent?
DrafterX
4 years ago
The others don't fight the Rona..?? 🤔
bgz
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4 years ago
Got my tdap before my first was born... I'm probably coming up on it again.

Funny thing (not so funny)... the qtards in my family (dads side) refused to get the tdap.

My dumb azz sister came down with whooping cough and decided she was going to see my new born after we asked them all to get the tdap... none of them did.... siting the same reasons all the usual idiots in here do.

I never really liked her after that... it just didn't sit right with me. The recklessness, the callousness... I know it was her right not to because they don't trust doctors and science and sh*t... but that sh*t coulda became real.
Brewha
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4 years ago
I’m starting to see it as the conservative tag line; Hooray for me, and to hell with you!
Brewha
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4 years ago

The others don't fight the Rona..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:


You can’t fool me - you’re not MACS……
RayR
4 years ago

You also forgot about if your healthy, and if your young. BTW in July death percentages are up to 99.5 % unvaccinated. Now it isn't give me freedom or death, it's freedom and death. BUT, it is everyone's unalienable right to choose!!!

Speyside wrote:



I heard 99.5% of the people that died from the vaccines were vaccinated.8-[ 😱


bgz
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4 years ago
You're wrong... I have it on authority that it was only 98.2%.
RayR
4 years ago

You're wrong... I have it on authority that it was only 98.2%.

bgz wrote:



I stand corrected.
Plowboy221
4 years ago
60 percent of the time, it works every time.
rfenst
4 years ago

Teedubbya, gonna jack with peoples insurance because they won’t take a shot? Well fatty that’s riding around Walmart stufffkng there cart with unhealthy junk food, should they have insurance messed with since they are a ticking time bomb for a heart attack, or diabetes. They should go in a diet and eat fresh foods, exercise, etc completely preventable. What about people that rock climb, sky diving, motor cycle riders, weekend drag racers, bull riders, farm hands, farmers I could go on and on. All preforming relatively dangerous activities with as much chance of getting hurt doing that than catching COVID, should there insurance be jacked with?

Plowboy221 wrote:



I have no problem with people declining the vaccination at this point- so long as they aren't harming others, although my personal belief, which I am not imposing on anyone, is otherwise.

Now, those who do engage in the dangerous activities DO pay more for private health health, life and disability insurance. Group policies, on the other hand, insure large groups under one policy and the % of people who engage in risky activities and their anticipated claims are factored in to the group price.
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