Brewha
3 years ago

Like other articles and opinions posted here before...a little proof to back them up.


Without Subsidies, How Many People Will Buy An EV?

DrMaddVibe wrote:



This is obviously some strange new usage of the word "proof" that I'm not familiar with.

And whomever wrote it seems to have far more questions than answers....
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

This is obviously some strange new usage of the word "proof" that I'm not familiar with.

And whomever wrote it seems to have far more questions than answers....

Brewha wrote:



Take it up with the Germany Motor Transport Authority.
Brewha
3 years ago

Take it up with the Germany Motor Transport Authority.

DrMaddVibe wrote:


I did - they said you were full of schnitzel.
Brewha
3 years ago
The Detroit News:


Ford details $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery plant to be built in Marshall


Ford Motor Co. signaled Monday that Michigan will play a central role in the Dearborn automaker's bid to secure its electric-vehicle supply chain and diversify its battery technologies.

The Blue Oval confirmed plans to invest $3.5 billion to build the first automaker-backed lithium iron phosphate battery plant in the United States. Ford is doing so with Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd., or CATL, under a licensing agreement with the China-based company, the world's leading battery manufacturer.

The venture, slated to come online in 2026, will initially create 2,500 jobs. The plant, as The Detroit News previously reported, will be built on the Marshall Megasite in Calhoun County and will be called BlueOval Battery Park Michigan. It would be part of a wholly-owned Ford subsidiary and could be expanded in the future.




Did someone NOT tell Ford people don’t want EV’s?

Note: LFP batteries…..Hmmmmm….smart.
delta1
3 years ago

Do you mean to say that without economic fascist policies, EV's aren't as attractive an option to consumers?

RayR wrote:




the oil and gas industry has enjoyed economic fascist policies for more than a century...

https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/restore-clean-energy-incentives-big-oil-FS.pdf 
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

The Detroit News:


Ford details $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery plant to be built in Marshall


Ford Motor Co. signaled Monday that Michigan will play a central role in the Dearborn automaker's bid to secure its electric-vehicle supply chain and diversify its battery technologies.

The Blue Oval confirmed plans to invest $3.5 billion to build the first automaker-backed lithium iron phosphate battery plant in the United States. Ford is doing so with Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd., or CATL, under a licensing agreement with the China-based company, the world's leading battery manufacturer.

The venture, slated to come online in 2026, will initially create 2,500 jobs. The plant, as The Detroit News previously reported, will be built on the Marshall Megasite in Calhoun County and will be called BlueOval Battery Park Michigan. It would be part of a wholly-owned Ford subsidiary and could be expanded in the future.




Did someone NOT tell Ford people don’t want EV’s?

Note: LFP batteries…..Hmmmmm….smart.

Brewha wrote:



[frypan] [frypan] [frypan]

You'll buy anything to peddle your fart car.

Tell that to the people that are getting laid off at Ford!

https://news.yahoo.com/ford-plans-lay-off-8-230054227.html

Pass the chopsticks!
RayR
3 years ago

the oil and gas industry has enjoyed economic fascist policies for more than a century...

https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/restore-clean-energy-incentives-big-oil-FS.pdf 

delta1 wrote:



Thank you DELTA, it's not a debate without the propaganda of LEFTY CLIMATE CRISIS CRAZIES who have no discernable consistent principles as to what is right and what is wrong.
So they are not principled anti-fascists, they are only against economic fascist policies for stuff they don't like?
Yes, I've read some of their other articles.

Speyside2
3 years ago
There is climate change, there is climate pollution. How detrimental is climate change? I guess that is dependant on what becomes your POV. As long as India, and China have no intention of lowering their climate pollution, climate pollution will remain high.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago
Ford Sinks After Halting Production, Shipments Of Electric F-150 On 'Battery Issues'



With Tesla stock soaring (and price cuts already hurting competitors' margins), Ford shares are sliding afte rthe carmaker announced that it has paused production and shipments of its electric F-150 Lightning pickup due to a potential battery issue.

As CNBC reports, the EV truck is being closely watched by investors, as it’s the first mainstream electric pickup on the market and a major launch for Ford.

The production halt adds to ongoing “execution issues” detailed to investors earlier this month by Ford CEO Jim Farley.

Ford stock price is fading on the headline...

Ford has not established a timeline for when production and the shipments will resume, Ford spokesperson Emma Bergg said.

“The team is diligently working on the root cause analysis,” Bergg said, adding the company is “doing the right thing by our customers” to resolve any potential issues before resuming production and shipments.

Bergg said the company is unaware of any incidents or issues associated with the potential battery issue. There is no stop-sale for vehicles already on dealer lots, meaning dealers can continue to sell vehicles they already have on hand.

The halt in production and shipments was first reported Tuesday by Motor Authority.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ford-sinks-after-halting-production-shipments-electric-f-150-battery-issues 
delta1
3 years ago

Thank you DELTA, it's not a debate without the propaganda of LEFTY CLIMATE CRISIS CRAZIES who have no discernable consistent principles as to what is right and what is wrong.
So they are not principled anti-fascists, they are only against economic fascist policies for stuff they don't like?
Yes, I've read some of their other articles.

RayR wrote:



your chose the adjectives...

government subsidy is government subsidy...

and the oil industry has been given a whole bunch for a long time, despite remarkable profits for the duration...


and like other environmentally destructive industries before it, you and I and our fellow taxpayers will be on the hook for all the costs of clean-up once the business stops being profitable and the companies file for bankruptcy...we may both be young enough to see that day


but I digress....apologies to Ram, for letting myself be goaded in, close to the edge of "politics" here on neutral ground...I've been trying to avoid getting drawn in by political diatribes
HockeyDad
3 years ago
When you realize how important oil and gas is to the building, operating, and defending the United States you realize why the industry receives certain subsidies to do certain things that are in the government’s interests.

Note that there is no Strategic Lithium Reserve.
Speyside2
3 years ago
Psychiatrists hold the Stategic Lithium Reserve.
BuckyB93
3 years ago
We should start to bottle up sunshine and wind and hold it in underground caverns for strategic green energy reserves.

Put some huge sails and solar panels on tanks, MRAPs, war ships and stuff, then unbottle the green energy when we are called upon for another "peace keeping" war or humanity/disaster relief campaigns.
deadeyedick
3 years ago

When you realize how important oil and gas is to the building, operating, and defending the United States you realize why the industry receives certain subsidies to do certain things that are in the government’s interests.

Note that there is no Strategic Lithium Reserve.

HockeyDad wrote:



*SMIRK*

~The Chicoms
Brewha
3 years ago

There is climate change, there is climate pollution. How detrimental is climate change? I guess that is dependant on what becomes your POV. As long as India, and China have no intention of lowering their climate pollution, climate pollution will remain high.

Speyside2 wrote:



China leads the world in both battery and EV production. China already has an estimated 54 million “green jobs”, with over 4 million jobs in renewable energy. China has also announced that it will no longer build coal-fired power plants abroad and will step up support for other countries in developing green and low-carbon energy. We are behind them.

India is Thursday's child.
Speyside2
3 years ago
China is the largest CO2 polluter in the world. We are second. India is third. Look it up, it is easy to find.
Stogie1020
3 years ago

China is the largest CO2 polluter in the world. We are second. India is third. Look it up, it is easy to find.

Speyside2 wrote:


Don't let your fact get in brewha's mind-delusional way. I mean, he thinks we are "behind" China...
Brewha
3 years ago

China is the largest CO2 polluter in the world. We are second. India is third. Look it up, it is easy to find.

Speyside2 wrote:



No doubt. People I work with go over there and the air is unbelievably bad - cause of pollution. So their peep is motivated.
At least the are steering the car in the right direction....
Brewha
3 years ago

Don't let your fact get in brewha's mind-delusional way. I mean, he thinks we are "behind" China...

Stogie1020 wrote:



China is ahead of us in EV and battery production - look it up.

But if it makes you feel better, from our perspective they are under us - at least on the globe...
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