Someone who is for limited government... much, much more limited than we have become. We've gone well and far beyond what was intended. Someone who is for supporting the constitution as it was written. There's no need to interpret sh*t. They said it plain and clear when they wrote it.

Someone who will not negotiate when it comes to getting a balanced budget. STOP the bleeding. STOP sending money to countries that hate us. Stop funding wars in other countries. Stop meddling in other countries' affairs and stop being the world police.

And finally... someone who will support term limits, and transparency when it comes to gov't officials money making. They want to see Trump's tax return?? I want to see ALL of theirs. How did people making 150k become multimillionaires?

MACS wrote:

Trump didn’t submit a budget that was in anyway balanced. Jus sayin’

On the other hand, I long for someone who has the nutz to say enough is enough. Someone who will say no more tax cuts for anyone until we pay down the debt. Someone who will say “we can’t afford _____, _____, and _____”. We need someone who isn’t afraid to submit a budget that cuts enough so that revenue exceeds expenditures by at least 10% and dedicates the surplus to debt reduction. Someone who will absolutely veto any spending bill that does not accomplish that. Someone who brave enough to tell Congress to get off their ass and send such a bill within the next 30 days.

Right now, no one on the campaign trail has speaks that message.

Abrignac wrote:

Most of those guys were some of the most trollin mofos to ever log on. I used to call em keyboard commandos.

It's weird to me that now they allegedly claim to be butthurt. Don't you think that's strange? What did I miss?

You ever hear from Izon?

RobertHively wrote:

Far righties? I'm pretty sure I am further to the right than HD... and I don't consider myself "far" anything. I just see the forest through the trees.

MACS wrote:

They don't claim to be butt-hurt. They just don't think there is enough exchange of rational discourse anymore so they simply stopped posting. Ad hominem abusive arguments were also a major factor.

BGZ- not a liberal
TW- not a liberal, probably leans conservative
Leo- issue by issue
Zody- not a liberal

rfenst wrote:

They don't claim to be butt-hurt. They just don't think there is enough exchange of rational discourse anymore so they simply stopped posting. Ad hominem abusive arguments were also a major factor.

BGZ- not a liberal
TW- not a liberal, probably leans conservative
Leo- issue by issue
Zody- not a liberal

rfenst wrote:

As a voice of the “Left” here, I will agree that the forum has shifted away from discussion of issues to middle school level name calling by the “Right”. Because they cannot debate. And when you offer another view they respond with STFU, because that’s all they got.

So, it’s kind of a Right Wing circle jerk here most of the time….

Brewha wrote:

From my perspective them leaving because of Ad Hom attacks is hypocritic on their part. Personal attacks towards me, and many other forum members, from them, was pretty much my first five yrs here.

Victor, TW, BGZ and others constantly attacked me for my thoughts on medical freedom and for my principles, and everything else under the sun. Your boy Spey named me "Qbert".

In the end though, I didn't bend the knee, the wife and I stood on principle concerning "covid", and it cost us our jobs and a lot of other things. What did TW lose, other than respect, when Bucky pounded him into the ground? He got what he dished out.

A bully doesn't have any problem dishing out the hits, up until the moment they get hit back. So, I have no sympathy for them. And like I said, I like TW and BGZ. I wish they would come back.

I don't say anything to anybody online, or in these forums, that I wouldn't say in person.

RobertHively wrote:

I think we can all agree that if all the righties left the forum this would be a better place. MCFA.

HockeyDad wrote:

As a voice of the “Left” here, I will agree that the forum has shifted away from discussion of issues to middle school level name calling by the “Right”. Because they cannot debate. And when you offer another view they respond with STFU, because that’s all they got.

So, it’s kind of a Right Wing circle jerk here most of the time….

Brewha wrote:

But, it's really not about them. It's about the overall drop-off here, this time over the last 2-3 years...

rfenst wrote:

I was prepared to skewer you whence we met, but you are so dreamy that I was instantly disarmed.
Still one of the most memorable days we have ever been treated to...coincidently, gonna watch the game at Bonni and Rick's house today.

frankj1 wrote:

So what has changed over the last 2-3 years to cause this very concerning drop-off? I ask that question as someone who has posted here for 23 years.

HockeyDad wrote:

Perot ran in 1992

Clinton was the last POTUS to have a balanced budget...even a surplus IIRC.
In office '93 to 2001
Balanced budget from '98 to 2001

Last POTUS before him to do so was LBJ

frankj1 wrote:

The ever-growing budget surplus of the U.S. Government is exciting the spending instincts of most politicians. It stirs their passions and encourages them to find and concoct new spending programs that will tap into the surplus.

In defense of their position and income, most politicians are ever eager to take as much money as possible from taxpayers so that they may buy the favors of the voters. They wax eloquent about the great benefits of spending but fall silent about the costs and consequences of taxation. Most of them may even engage in the art of fiscal legerdemain which turns a tax into a benefit and a deficit into a surplus. The budget surpluses of the Clinton Administration are current examples of such deception.

https://mises.org/library/surplus-hoax 

They don't claim to be butt-hurt. They just don't think there is enough exchange of rational discourse anymore so they simply stopped posting. Ad hominem abusive arguments were also a major factor.

BGZ- not a liberal
TW- not a liberal, probably leans conservative
Leo- issue by issue
Zody- not a liberal

rfenst wrote: