Our government has gone way, way, waaaaaaay beyond what was intended. Both parties contributed to that and continue to make it worse.

A revolution is needed and has been for some time.

MACS wrote:

Doc and I were talking about this in another thread, he suggested I start another thread which I think is a good idea.

I think neither party is interested in saving our freedoms. They just chip away at them in different ways. It is up to us to defend our freedom. The constitution seems to have no meaning for politicians. They live and breathe for dark money and perceived power. I only see one viable option. Every election vote against the incumbent. I do not care if their ideology is the same as mine or not. Their agenda is not for America, this I do care about. If we do this long enough, they will remember they work for Americans, no one else. The problem comes when the incumbent is running against a previous incumbent. In this I am not talking about only Trump and Biden. In instances like this I will do a write in vote. My goal with all of this is to return America to the American public. I see no other viable way to do this. I no longer see Republican and Democrat politicians. I see elected officials following instructions American or worldwide Oligarchs.

I am interested in all of you presenting your thoughts/opinions. I am not interested in a skunk pissing contest.

Speyside2 wrote:

And we want to be able to marry our cousins..!! Damnit..!! 😠

DrafterX wrote:

As long as our gubment can be bought you will get the policies that those buyers are willing to pay for and nothing more.

deadeyedick wrote:

Our government has gone way, way, waaaaaaay beyond what was intended. Both parties contributed to that and continue to make it worse. YES.

A revolution is needed and has been for some time. Are you saying violence is needed and has been for some time?

MACS wrote:

The Contract With America that passed all but one item...Term Limits. That would eliminate the Legislative Branch chokehold. You only have say 2 terms as a Senator and 5-6 as a Congressman. Move up or out. While we're talking about term limits, they shouldn't be allowed to ever be a part or a lobbyist. EVER. OK

Legislation should be a single bill. NO RIDERS. If your bill cannot withstand an up/down vote and you lack the sincerity to put it up then it shouldn't be allowed to ride on another bill. Yes.

No Executive Orders. If the President wants to have something passed, push it through the House with support from them. Got to have some flexibility on this one.

Strip away all retirement pay and benefits from them. Politics is NOT a career job. Never was, and never should've been. While they serve they can eat in the cafeteria, sleep in their offices and they can use the VA for healthcare they push on our troops. Rip away the "recesses". They were designed for when AC wasn't invented and crops needed to planted or harvested. I don't agree with removing retirement benefits because only the most well off can go, say 12 years, without continuing to contribute to their retirement. That will limit the pool of candidates.

Any military action, skirmish, or conflict should be banned and a formal Declaration of War from Congress is needed. No more Executive Branch overreach or 90 day emergency bull****. 90 days and no extensions without Congress.

It appears that neither party is willing to take on any of the above because it favors their selfish interests. Barring going the Convention of States or revolution route...I don't see them doing it. Its up to us to MAKE them do it.Everyone eligible should Vote!

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jeebling wrote: