rfenst
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a year ago

The shooter probably thought he was doing the country a favor... how many democrats including the president have said Trump is a threat to democracy.. plus many other falsehoods that Trump will cause if elected..

Ya, I said it.. most of us are thinking it... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


He is a threat to democracy in my eyes.
But, that should get get resolved at the ballot box, not gun-point.
ZRX1200
a year ago
He was in office before, how in TF is he a threat to democracy?
Whistlebritches
a year ago

What an idiotic statement.
Show me your psychological or psychiatric degrees

rfenst wrote:



Show me yours.

Some conditions are just obvious


He is a threat to democracy in my eyes.
But, that should get get resolved at the ballot box, not gun-point.

rfenst wrote:




So the democrat party wants to insert a candidate better suited to defeat Trump that was not voted for by the people.........Now that is a threat to democracy my friend.





Mr. Jones
a year ago
Here's what ME, myself and I
Plus DMV & RayR want to know???

How many of the secret service agents on this EXACT DETAIL, IN BUTLER ,PA...THAT DAY....

## WERE "REINSTATED LOSERS FROM THE CARTEGNEA, COLUMBIA WHORES/GAMBLING& DRINKING LIKE FISH AGENTS"...
ASSIGNED TO THIS PODUNK " BUTLER,PA " APPEARANCE??

## WHY WASNT A TRIANGULAR BULLETPROOF GLASS STAND AROUND THAT PODIUM....

## HOW MANY OF THOSE Secret Service agents had a ALCOHOL HANGOVER FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE , AND BARELY ANY SLEEP FROM DRINKING ALL NIGHT LONG before that function?

# why wasn't a SECRET SERVICE SNIPER ON THAT BLDG /ROOF?
THAT was only 147 yards from the speaking podium!
( goddamned that is super close!!! Only one and a half HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL FIELDS AWAY WITH A CLEAR AS CRAP LINE OF SITE??.)

THAT ROOF TOP IS THE FIRST FREAKIN THING I WOULDVE CHKED AND STATIONED AN AGENT ON...AND I DONT even have a S.S. TRAINING EDUCATION...ITS JUST COMMON FREAKIN' SENSE???
Mr. Jones
a year ago
Did anyone else NOTICE THE TOTAL INEPTITUDE OF THE SECRET SERVICE "FEMALE G.A.S.H." AGENTS ???
TALK ABOUT CONFUSED AS CRAP KENTS...
THOSE 3-4? BITCHES were pulling their pieces, fumbling with their guns, un holstering and trying to reholster their pistols, missing the holster M.u.l.t.i.p.l.e. freaking times...

Freakin gash can't handle that stress...they shoulda all been uncover dressed like grandma's and walked out Trump supporter GRUBS wearing flag drapes and trout fishing jungles hats....

The two benches I saw were totally out of there real. Of expertise...they were really bush league and a hindderence to the entire loading of the president into that car... they should be fired or assigned to desk duty...

Bunch of incompetent PUTZ'S w/ tits and rayban spectacles they kept adjusting like they were in a cosmopolitan photo shoot...

GASH AGENTS = LIABILITIES
8trackdisco
a year ago



THAT ROOF TOP IS THE FIRST FREAKIN THING I WOULDVE CHKED AND STATIONED AN AGENT ON...AND I DONT even have a S.S. TRAINING EDUCATION...ITS JUST COMMON FREAKIN' SENSE???

Mr. Jones wrote:



I'd like to learn why the building 135 yards away was not in the perimeter.
Answering that question would be a big help.

That, and wonder about how drones are used, or not used in these situations and why.
8trackdisco
a year ago

Did anyone else NOTICE THE TOTAL INEPTITUDE OF THE SECRET SERVICE "FEMALE G.A.S.H." AGENTS ???
TALK ABOUT CONFUSED AS CRAP KENTS...
THOSE 3-4? BITCHES were pulling their pieces, fumbling with their guns, un holstering and trying to reholster their pistols, missing the holster M.u.l.t.i.p.l.e. freaking times...

Freakin gash can't handle that stress...they shoulda all been uncover dressed like grandma's and walked out Trump supporter GRUBS wearing flag drapes and trout fishing jungles hats....

The two benches I saw were totally out of there real. Of expertise...they were really bush league and a hindderence to the entire loading of the president into that car... they should be fired or assigned to desk duty...

Bunch of incompetent PUTZ'S w/ tits and rayban spectacles they kept adjusting like they were in a cosmopolitan photo shoot...

GASH AGENTS = LIABILITIES

Mr. Jones wrote:



Ineptitude. I would agree with that.
Gene363
a year ago
This video includes diagrams of the buildings and the actions of the various Secret Service teams.

Secret Service Sniper Drops Would-Be Assassin




8trackdisco
a year ago

This video includes diagrams of the buildings and the actions of the various Secret Service teams.

Secret Service Sniper Drops Would-Be Assassin



Gene363 wrote:



Assuming the shooter got onto the blind side of the building, how much time would he have had once on the roof before he got his shots off.

Was the backside of the of the roof not in the sight line of the SS sniper?
OR
Could the shooter have been concealed until he got to the apex of the roof?

Once on the apex how many seconds was he potentially in the SS sniper's sights?

Was the SS sniper in charge of a 180 degree arc and just happended to be on the opposite end of the arc when the assassin crested the top of the roof?

Those are some of the small details which would help us understand.
Gene363
a year ago

Assuming the shooter got onto the blind side of the building, how much time would he have had once on the roof before he got his shots off.

Was the backside of the of the roof not in the sight line of the SS sniper?
OR
Could the shooter have been concealed until he got to the apex of the roof?

Once on the apex how many seconds was he potentially in the SS sniper's sights?

Was the SS sniper in charge of a 180 degree arc and just happended to be on the opposite end of the arc when the assassin crested the top of the roof?

Those are some of the small details which would help us understand.

8trackdisco wrote:



True!
ZRX1200
a year ago
Jonsie that short haired round one looked like she had no business being anywhere but a desk….
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Here's what ME, myself and I
Plus DMV & RayR want to know???

How many of the secret service agents on this EXACT DETAIL, IN BUTLER ,PA...THAT DAY....

## WERE "REINSTATED LOSERS FROM THE CARTEGNEA, COLUMBIA WHORES/GAMBLING& DRINKING LIKE FISH AGENTS"...
ASSIGNED TO THIS PODUNK " BUTLER,PA " APPEARANCE??

## WHY WASNT A TRIANGULAR BULLETPROOF GLASS STAND AROUND THAT PODIUM....

## HOW MANY OF THOSE Secret Service agents had a ALCOHOL HANGOVER FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE , AND BARELY ANY SLEEP FROM DRINKING ALL NIGHT LONG before that function?

# why wasn't a SECRET SERVICE SNIPER ON THAT BLDG /ROOF?
THAT was only 147 yards from the speaking podium!
( goddamned that is super close!!! Only one and a half HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL FIELDS AWAY WITH A CLEAR AS CRAP LINE OF SITE??.)

THAT ROOF TOP IS THE FIRST FREAKIN THING I WOULDVE CHKED AND STATIONED AN AGENT ON...AND I DONT even have a S.S. TRAINING EDUCATION...ITS JUST COMMON FREAKIN' SENSE???

Mr. Jones wrote:



No drones, no pillars erected to obstruct shooting lanes, only rear shooting nest?????

Questions abound and I'm serious when I say heads need to roll over this.
drglnc
a year ago

No drones, no pillars erected to obstruct shooting lanes, only rear shooting nest?????

Questions abound and I'm serious when I say heads need to roll over this.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



id be curious to know how that differs from previous rallies he has done. i have no idea because i haven't had a reason to know.
HockeyDad
a year ago

He is a threat to democracy in my eyes.
But, that should get get resolved at the ballot box, not gun-point.

rfenst wrote:



In that case it sounds like Trump is not really a threat to democracy.
rfenst
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a year ago

Show me yours.
Some conditions are just obvious

So the democrat party wants to insert a candidate better suited to defeat Trump that was not voted for by the people.........Now that is a threat to democracy my friend.

Whistlebritches wrote:


I do not ahve a psychologist or psychiatric degree
Sorry, but I stay in my lane and don't diagnose anyone as a result..
You shouldn't either.

As to how the D's select their candidate, it is none of your business



MACS
a year ago

He was in office before, how in TF is he a threat to democracy?

ZRX1200 wrote:



Just leave it alone, Jamie... some folks are beyond help. The TDS is deeply ingrained from WAPO, NYT and CNN.
MACS
a year ago

I'd like to learn why the building 135 yards away was not in the perimeter.
Answering that question would be a big help.

That, and wonder about how drones are used, or not used in these situations and why.

8trackdisco wrote:



That, and why nobody did anything after bystanders were pointing out the shooter while he was still crawling on the roof. They waited until how many shots were fired?
MACS
a year ago

I do not ahve a psychologist or psychiatric degree
Sorry, but I stay in my lane and don't diagnose anyone as a result..
You shouldn't either.

As to how the D's select their candidate, it is none of your business

rfenst wrote:


I think as American citizens it is ALL of our business how candidates are selected. WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to select them.

Appointing a candidate without the voice of the people is fine, but electing a former president who served his term and then left office is a threat to democracy? 😣
rfenst
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a year ago

I think as American citizens it is ALL of our business how candidates are selected. WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to select them.

MACS wrote:


No. It is not. It's a party thing.
You do not belong to that party. You have no say in its process.
You do not know what that party's rules are.
It is not our business which and how each candidate is selected by a party we do not belong to.
It is our duty to simply vote for the presidential candidate we believe in.

The incredible irony in your comment is- that there would be absolutely no reason for any party to hold a vote at a convention.
JGKAMIN
a year ago

Assuming the shooter got onto the blind side of the building, how much time would he have had once on the roof before he got his shots off.

Was the backside of the of the roof not in the sight line of the SS sniper?
OR
Could the shooter have been concealed until he got to the apex of the roof?

Once on the apex how many seconds was he potentially in the SS sniper's sights?

Was the SS sniper in charge of a 180 degree arc and just happended to be on the opposite end of the arc when the assassin crested the top of the roof?

Those are some of the small details which would help us understand.

8trackdisco wrote:


Bystanders claimed they tipped police off minutes ahead of time. This video on CNN shows the shooter:

I also saw a video laid out in synch with Trump’s speech and it was slightly more than 2 minutes from the start of filming and screaming to shots fired. If a policeman was sent up there to check on a possible shooter as we’ve been told, Trump should’ve been pulled off stage until clear. And if that policeman did in fact go right back down why did it still take the sniper to react as opposed to acting on the threat?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/video/shooter-seen-by-attendees-one-minute-before-trump-shot-digvid 
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