Brewha
a year ago

Seems that in between what used to pass as our old school banter and statements like the one above, that's pretty much been your main point...
I assume that's what people will do.

My two experiences, neither one first person:

Close friend ordered the smaller Tesla sedan (the one about the size of a BMW 3 series) when Musk was taking $1,000.00 deposits with the plan being delivery the next year, probably around 2016 or 2017. The price was a little north of 30K.
His car arrived late Winter and he decided to upgrade to all wheel drive at a fairly significant increase, but that car arrived early Spring. He had already had a charger installed at his garage door so he could charge in the garage or in the driveway.

In late June that year, I rode with him to Wild Man Weekend, either to Killington VT or Sunday River ME, in the Tesla.
Stopped once to charge up as we grabbed lunch at a well equipped rest area on the highway. Got back in the car, I believe he estimated he just picked up between 150 and 200 miles, but I can't swear to it.
I have to say the ride was about as amazing as I've ever experienced. The effortless, head snapping passing power and the quietness of the vehicle were nothing like I had ever had in any vehicle.

He parked in one of the few spots with chargers in the lot of the resort and charged up at night.
It was part of his well thought out preplanning for the weekend and it presented no downsides.
It even blew my mind when we were able to pack all our stuff in such a small vehicle...two sets of golf clubs, two suitcases, the required liquid and edible provisions expected for Wild man Weekend...because he pretty much bought a car with a trunk in back and in front!

Second experience:
Another close friend bought a Hybrid/Electric Toyota Rav 4 late May, early June of this year. Similar ooomph etc.
He will use it for all driving except for longer runs, just his daily stuff, even though it does also use gas.
So after one month, he had traveled 1,300 miles and used...A HALF GALLON OF GAS!!
Unless he drives more than something like 50 miles between charges, the car uses no gas at all.

One weird thing, he had to first lease the Rav 4 for one month and then was able to get rebates when he purchased it after 30 days...he says all the rebates were from Toyota and not tax credits or tax related to his finances.

frankj1 wrote:




Automotive Engineers will tell you that cars are 10% technology and 90% psychology: - meaning people assess them subjectively.

Brewha
a year ago

BTW, how do you define a luxury car since many “non-luxury” cars come many if not all of the same amenities that so-called luxury cars boast having.

Here’s tech info for a 2022 Tesla 3. Sure it’s a couple years old but I doubt there are any water-shed changes.

The base model offers 18-inch wheels and 235/45R18 tires; the Accord comes standard with 17 wheels

Both have dual-zone climate controls; heated and power-adjustable front seats; keyless entry. Electric start is extra on the Accord and start;

Both LED headlights; a panoramic sunroof; split-folding rear seats; and synthetic leather upholstery.

Tech amenities for this trim include an eight-speaker audio system; a 15-inch touch screen (Honda’s is 8” but who needs it when driving?) with a web browser (big whoop) and

navigation capabilities; and a wireless charging pad for two smartphones. Honda has charging ports.

Driver assists such as adaptive cruise control; automatic emergency braking; blind-spot warning; lane-keeping assist; So does Honda.

and front and rear parking sensors are standard. If you can’t park without sensors you have no business driving a car.

Like I said earlier SIMILARLY EQUIPPED

Abrignac wrote:



Or perhaps a should quote MACS:
"You don't see the forest through the trees"

🇨🇮
Abrignac
a year ago

Or perhaps a should quote MACS:
"You don't see the forest through the trees"

🇨🇮

Brewha wrote:



I’ll assume you deflect because I’m correct. No surprise there.
Brewha
a year ago

I’ll assume you deflect because I’m correct. No surprise there.

Abrignac wrote:




Deflect? Please - we have a difference of opinion.

Oh, and me watching Netflix on my 15" screen while waiting in the parking lot is a "big whoop".
HockeyDad
a year ago

Deflect? Please - we have a difference of opinion.

Oh, and me watching Netflix on my 15" screen while waiting in the parking lot is a "big whoop".

Brewha wrote:



Your Uber passenger late? That sucks.
HockeyDad
a year ago
Fun numbers:

Rivian lost $32,700 per car sold last quarter.
Lucid still loses well over $300,000 per car but the company is pretty much owned by the Saudis so they’ve got deep pockets.
frankj1
a year ago

Fun numbers:

Rivian lost $32,700 per car sold last quarter.
Lucid still loses well over $300,000 per car but the company is pretty much owned by the Saudis so they’ve got deep pockets.

HockeyDad wrote:


my friend who owned the cabinet/countertop place I worked used to love telling people "we lose money on every cabinet but we make up for it in volume".
jeebling
a year ago

my friend who owned the cabinet/countertop place I worked used to love telling people "we lose money on every cabinet but we make up for it in volume".

frankj1 wrote:



😂 😂 😂
Abrignac
a year ago

Deflect? Please - we have a difference of opinion.

Oh, and me watching Netflix on my 15" screen while waiting in the parking lot is a "big whoop".

Brewha wrote:



I guess you have find a way to pass the time waiting for the batteries to charge. My car doesn’t present that problem. 🤷‍♂️
Brewha
a year ago

I guess you have find a way to pass the time waiting for the batteries to charge. My car doesn’t present that problem. 🤷‍♂️

Abrignac wrote:



Never waited even a minute to charge in two years - food for thought next time you're pumping gas.

Enjoy your oil changes 😇
Brewha
a year ago

Your Uber passenger late? That sucks.

HockeyDad wrote:



A family with Grandkids makes a Uber drivers life seem glamorous...

Is Uber what you use your EV for?
we can call you GreenDad ya know...
jeebling
Abrignac
a year ago
Just passed a car carrier parked on the shoulder. It was loaded with Tesla’s. The one on the top in the rear was on fire. Im guessing something shorted??
HockeyDad
a year ago

A family with Grandkids makes a Uber drivers life seem glamorous...

Is Uber what you use your EV for?
we can call you GreenDad ya know...

Brewha wrote:



We just use the EV for cruising around the community. Maybe dinner, maybe groceries. It’s kinda fun.
RayR
a year ago
You better be careful with those EVs. Lithium-ion batteries and saltwater don't mix. 💣

Electric vehicles catch fire in Helene flooding

FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Worth

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jeebling
a year ago
Natural gas powered engines should be reconsidered IMHO.
Gene363
a year ago
Right now electric vehicles are sitting idle we have not had power for seven day and the outlook people I know is two or three weeks from today to get reconnected.

FWIW, i’m thankful I had a gas driven chainsaw and family and neighbors. Have gas driven generators. Those nice home battery powered power stations are great until they are discharged.

Carry on the discussion.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Right now electric vehicles are sitting idle we have not had power for seven day and the outlook people I know is two or three weeks from today to get reconnected.

FWIW, i’m thankful I had a gas driven chainsaw and family and neighbors. Have gas driven generators. Those nice home battery powered power stations are great until they are discharged.

Carry on the discussion.

Gene363 wrote:




ZACKLY Gene. I lost 3 40' cedar trees and 2 scrub oaks. There's NO WAY an electric saw was A) going to last as long and 😎 have enough "ass" to get through a tree that's 32" round. Those toys are cute and all but in the real world they don't measure up. Just like a glorified golf cart isn't a real vehicle...sure it'll get you there...what's that safety rating? When the power runs out...where ya goin' besides on foot?

You raise another great point that the Carolina's are displaying...Neighbors are working together. Bitcoin doesn't work, cash is king and the barter system is alive an well. Hear tell that they're organizing a search and rescue operation on horseback into parts that loved ones haven't heard from anyone. God bless the American spirit.

Oh and there's this....


https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2024/10/02/its-been-a-bad-news-week-for-lithium-ion-batteries-n3795295 [/i][/color]
Brewha
a year ago

ZACKLY Gene. I lost 3 40' cedar trees and 2 scrub oaks. There's NO WAY an electric saw was A) going to last as long and 😎 have enough "ass" to get through a tree that's 32" round. Those toys are cute and all but in the real world they don't measure up. Just like a glorified golf cart isn't a real vehicle...sure it'll get you there...what's that safety rating? When the power runs out...where ya goin' besides on foot?

You raise another great point that the Carolina's are displaying...Neighbors are working together. Bitcoin doesn't work, cash is king and the barter system is alive an well. Hear tell that they're organizing a search and rescue operation on horseback into parts that loved ones haven't heard from anyone. God bless the American spirit.

Oh and there's this....


https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2024/10/02/its-been-a-bad-news-week-for-lithium-ion-batteries-n3795295 [/i][/color]

DrMaddVibe wrote:




"Master Blaster runs Barter Town"

It's just like a conservative dream......

So, D - you got any pig shit?

😂
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