Who are you talking to VFR? I love to hunt. And when I do the gun in my hands is my responsibility.

If I run a stop sign and hit a kid it's my fault....not the kids. I suppose if he ran out after a ball you could infer it was his fault as well, but I was always taught tho look for those potentials and the pedestrian always has the right of way.

That said... accidents do happen. And if the VP took out a kid with his car, I'm thinking it would be news.

I'm not for taking away cars or guns. I'm for responsibility. Cheney appears to be taking it. Good for him.

V,

I don't think Buckwheat was advocating taking away guns. I think he was just saying that those who use them should use them safely or not use them at all. There are a lot of irresponsible gun owners out there, just as there are a lot of irresponsible car drivers.

I was taught really well by my father who was a Navy sniper years ago. I've been teaching my 16 year old the same way, and plan to teach my two-year-old someday as well (and my daughter, if she wants to learn).

I do agree with your "it's not the guns, it's the people" stance. I'm sure a lot of us do.

V if someone puts you in the ICU because of their negligence they are a hazard to society in general and society should deal with them within the constrants of the law. Just because someone can be negligent with an auto is really mutually exclusive from someone's potential negligence with a gun. I really don't understand your reaction to my original post.

I can't go to work tomorrow because the "voices" are telling me to stay home and clean the guns.....

are you sure, the voices are saying send buzkirk cigars

I'' I hear "something".....

send cigars, send cigars, clean guns, send cigars

I agree with Buckwheats Original Post...

Cheney should lose his hunting privledges at the very least! VP or not...

Hog

If this guy dies... couldn't he be charged with involintary manslaughter? Really! ???!?!??!

I guess my point was that we are all human, vp or not accidents do happen. Everyone is lambasting the vp for his so called "negligence". I have hunted all my life, and have seen situations in the field where the situation that happend to cheney could have easliy happend to me. I also hunt birds quite often. I have seen people get greedy trying to get to the bird first and get out of line which can leed to a very dangerous situation. I just think its rediclous that everyone is making a huge deal about this. Of all the crap and injustices that go on every day in this country they are blowing this thing wayyy out of proportion. I was attempting to show how hypocritical our media is. All of the vehicle "accidents" that happen in this country every day and its blow over like its no big deal. People get cited.. a little fine..ect.. someone breaks a leg.. ect.. BUT... a hunting accident happens and everyone goes CRAZY!! Its just rediclous.

v

Four words....Read the 2nd Ammendment.

Then remember how an infringing government only continues to increase its infringements.

Geez, I just read some more of this blather about "using them safely"!!

Have you ever tripped over your own two feet? Certainly you know how to use your feet safely don't you? Accidents happen with everything, including your car as has been pointed out in a couple of posts.

Give me a break, this VP crap is just political BS from people with an axe to grind or simply are completely ignorant and/or afraid of guns.

agreed HK!!

v

Guys, I think that we agree more than we disagree on this issue. I think that we just have a difference of opinion on what constitutes an accident. In my opinion the VP's actions (and I really don't care that it was the VP) were negligent.

HK – If you consider “using them safely" blather then you have no business firing a gun.

I'm with BW.

Politics aside (hey...I voted for the guy), shooting someone unintentionally shows negligence.

An accident....yes......but not unavoidable with proper precautions.

I have seen several firearms accidents, luckily none serious. It appears to me that people reach a "comfort level", where practicing safe handling seems stupid and unneccesary (to an extent).

My friends and I shoot every few months up at my Dad's range and the casual manner in which many people handle and discharge firearms is alarming to me sometimes; and it does not make me feel like an **** to remind them to be safe.

That being said, the media is blowing this out of proportion.......but I would like to hear Cheney address firearms safety publicly......maybe some good can come out of this.