The show is over Timmy. Let's wheel you back to your corner to drool, mkay?

Come on...One more scotch?

I'm buyin'!

Okay, I'll sit and talk with you. Let's discuss the questions I asked of you above in post 55. Alternatively we can discuss what you want to talk about.

Here we go.

Nah! All that's way too serious....

Kinder gentler FGM

Either sarcasm or jokes

No more debates, arguments, discussions...I'll leave that to all you brilliant, pretty people!

WOOOOOOOOOOOHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

That's cool. And I like the idea. Just please point out that you are joking in every post so that people don't think you are REALLY a total **** that has nothing better to do but sit around drunk posting hatred at those that you disagree with. That's sorta the perception that I got. I'm glad it's wrong.

Ok Yup I'm joking...Sorry about the bad impression

Not drinkin either...Not today anyway...or yesterday....maybe tomorrow

Then I can be a REAL azzhole....!

You?

I don't try to be an ass, but I have a pretty strong ego, and it comes out in my typing at times. Most of what I say is truly with regard to learning and sharing ideas, but damn these human fingers.

Why do you think home invasions went up dipsh*t? No one can stop them. The criminals are emboldened when they know you can't defend yourself. Idiot...

I don't usually talk this much trash, but man you rub me the wrong way. And who the hell talks sh*t to FGM? I mean, seriously. You must have really pissed him off to even have him say anything in the Misc. boards.

Win/Win

National Guard goes in and shoots a bunch of dirtbags, or the dirtbags continue to kill each other. Win, win.

Crime will continue until criminals cease to exist.

Gun control has nothing to do with it. I should not have to put up a fence to keep your dog out of my yard.

hey nivana, how's about losing the trash talk? Pick a fight with some other dude?

Why did the home break-ins increase? How about doing some research, and finding out on your own? Was it really the fact that guns are not in homes? Really? Why didn't home break ins increase in Japan? Or Dubai?

If guns mean no home break ins then would that stop me from having a burglary? Would a fake gun visible through my front window ward off the attack? What about a real one with a plug in the chamber?

Australia got rid of guns and over ten years, as with the rest of the world home break ins increased...maybe it's a societal or economic thing? Maybe video games? Maybe no money means people are hungry? Maybe they are also experiencing a massive influx of meth/crack addiction and the home invasions are a part of that?

Get off my back with your name calling. Learn to think things thru, and quit being such a simpleton. I did nothing to you, why jump on me? Because I disagree?

Explain your reasoning to me please. I'm going to go ahead and assume for now that you have predisposed ideas about things based upon the media, the news, and the talking points that others just as ignorant as you have suggested to you, and whenever someone rumples your predisposed ideals you get your feathers ruffled.

The ego is a bitch. Drop some acid and regroup your head dude.

Peace.

I don't like Internet trash talk. I only did because you have consistently insulted people and have been extremely condescending. If you can't debate and just want to say others are wrong and stupid, maybe a cigar forum is not the place for you.

I have apologized and made VERY clear throughout my posts today for ANY and ALL misconstrued statements and ideas. Perhaps instead of going off half-cocked (pun intended), you should ask questions to verify someones intent instead of just jumping their **** dude.

If I have spoken with ill voice to you in this thread, once again, I didn't mean it to sound that way. If it did, point it out to me so I can regroup and NOT do that again.

Thanks.

Home owner with no gun is easier to beat to death with a bat.

Home owner with gun has a chance to shoot crackhead before being beat to death with bat.

Homeowner with two big dogs will never have a break in.

It's not about the break in, it's the prevention of said break in that I am concerned with.

Guns as home protection are worthless to me as the criminal is already IN your home. More likely to get shot on accident in your own bedroom if guns are your protective device as they clearly need to be locked, loaded, and at the ready. Same goes for the gun in your living room.

As a responsible adult with guest, guests children, and even myself and family in my home I cannot and will not subject them to the dangers of a loaded gun on every bookstand in every room, nor leaning in every corner. This is the ONLY way you can utilize guns to protect your home.

I have two dogs that would die for me if needed. I love them and they love me. I would die for them probably as well, but most likely on accident. If someone breaks into my home I have an unloaded mossberg 500a pump sawed-off that I'll grab along with the shells and run screaming out the back door or any available door as soon as I hear my alarm go off. It's loud and shines spotlights directly at all entrances to hopefully blind the intruders.

If I allow my dogs to do their JOBS, they will give me the precious seconds I need to run like hell.

If I lived alone in a cave, I would have a loaded gun. As mentioned though, I owe it to all who enter my home to provide them a safe shelter where their kids have no risk of killing themselves with my guns.

Not everyone has time to care for a dog.

You need to think in terms of layers of protection.

1. Landmines

2. Dogs

3. Guns

WT,

So do you have a gun in every room locked, loaded, and at the ready for when the burglars come? If so, more power to you, just be careful.

I do like the landmine idea.

It is not all it is cracked up to be if your area is prone to armadillos.

This whole discussion is descending into nonsense as they so often do.

Here is my dog in the fight, I have many guns none are registered and never will until it is the law in my state, which it isn’t. I’ve had a gun stolen (properly reported), I’ve bought and sold personal guns without background checks to personal friends (also not illegal). I have three large dogs who I believe will give me sufficient warning of intrusion however would not attack nor kill anyone (maybe lick them to death), if you think your dogs would kill for you you’re a fool or your more reckless having dogs like that then loaded guns. I have a loaded gun on every floor of the house and do train to use them. I have no kids so I don’t have safety issues that others have.

Gun restrictions do nothing to minimize gun related incidences, gun related crimes are driven by socio-economic issue not gun availability. Oh by the way we can all google, next time you want to publish crime statistic don’t pull down the first link that shows up and oh by the way “written by a pro gun control org” yes statistics can be manipulated. Actually US is ranked number 16 world wide in gun related murders but to find that info might take you more then a pedestrian google search.