tey
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Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:42:00 AM
The lost one was rejected but hopefully this one can make it. I find it very funny.456978.gif
andytv
Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:44:00 PM
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JonR
Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:54:00 PM
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adroomi
Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:03:00 PM
Tey,

That's some pretty funny stuff. Where do you find this guy? Is he in a newspaper somewhere?

He reminds me of Doonesbury. His political humour is definately on track with the times.

tey
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Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:23:00 PM
Adroomi,

Lalo is a cool cat that I've had the pleasure of chatting with a few times. He got yanked off of the Arizona Republic(an) newspaper funny section during the early days of operation enduring freedom. You can check him out at www.cartoonista.com or www.lacucaracha.com

andytv
Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:25:00 PM
I'm from the south............should I be offended??
rugrunner
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:13:00 PM
I don't think he's funny, and he can't draw. I guess being a fellow racist is good enough for Tey.
billyjackson
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:32:00 PM
1) Classic?? What's classic about this? That the message should be classic?

2) I understand the message. And I'm partly ok with it. However, I feel safe in assuming the "immigrants pouring in" are of the illegal variety. For those, they can go to hell. I'll make fun of them if I want to. When they start paying taxes, they can earn the right to call me a hypocrite...but when they start paying taxes, my disdain would subside.

tey
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Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:40:00 PM
Your comments remind me of a comic strip I once wherein a "good ol' boy" was standing on a soapbox spouting all this nonsense about getting rid of all the illegal aliens in this country. A native american was standing next to him and he kindly replied " I'll help you pack".
Krubs
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:48:00 PM
tey,

Do you think that this was the first time that indigenous people were displaced by settlers in the history of the world?

tey
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Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:52:00 PM
No. But I can't think of any other in recent history. If you know do tell.
billyjackson
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:52:00 PM
Masterful retort...and I'm not being facetious (sp?)...

It's one of those points that is very difficult to counter.

If I say anything about how the country was legally established by the Revolution and consequent government...I make light of the atrocities toward Native Americans.

If I try to say that it's different from that issue, then I have to come up with a string of reasons that I think it is...and I don't know if I can do that well enough for it to make any difference...and I'd be making light of the atrocities...

Guess the best I can do is respond this way...

It sucks what the white man did to the Indians. I can't do anything about that. Though proper restitution can't be made, I do believe the efforts to do so stand for something.

What must be dealt with is the situation now. And I believe that situation calls for a heavy handed stance toward ILLEGAL immigrants/aliens/whatever. As far as people coming to America through the proper channels...I'm ok with...that's what the channels are for.

But I will not feel bad for thinking the illegals need to be stopped from entering.

tey
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Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:05:00 PM
Another good reply Billy.
RICKAMAVEN
Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:42:00 AM
billyjackson

i agree we should do our best to stop illegal immigration.

how about we go to the sweat shops and small manufacturing plants and arrest and fine the owners of the places that give these illegals jobs.

you and i would have to show some proof that we are who we say we are or we would not be hired. a good part of the problem is employers that knowingly hire illegal aliens at a cheaper wage then they would an american.

if there were no jobs here, who would come.

i know that is simplistic, but i am too tired to tirade.

ducati996
Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:42:00 AM
Most illegal immigrants would love to have the opportunity to pay taxes. Current immigration laws (which are much more strict than when your relatives emmigrated to my country) do not allow them to pay taxes. If your gripe is them not paying taxes, allow them to do so.
jetblasted
Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:23:00 AM
Yet, the " Unlawful " Immigration continues. And, if you haven't noticed, the numbers are skyrocketing. Illegal is Exploding . . .
billyjackson
Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:20:00 AM
Rick...

I agree with you. To enforce the laws in place would be a huge step. Unfortunately, with all the money and effort that is spent, officials set differing priorities for it. I think it should be a priority. That doesn't mean it will be one.

billyjackson
Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:23:00 AM
"If your gripe is them not paying taxes, allow them to do so."

Don't come here illegally. Immigration laws shouldn't let illegals pay taxes. Immigration laws are in place to try to keep them from being ILLEGAL.

to clarify myself...I'm not saying that illegals should pay taxes...I'm saying they should not be illegal. If they were legit, they'd pay taxes and be on a little more equal footing. It may take a while for them to be Americans if they choose, but I wouldn't blanketly consider them a burden.

tey
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:57:00 AM
Billy,

About 85% of my client base are people who have recently come here to work. Illegal or not I have never met a single person that does not pay his taxes. Iknow this for a fact because they show me there tax returns.

billyjackson
Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:25:00 AM
tey...

good. now i'd like to see the illegal ones become legit.

I will not back down from thinking that illegal immigration should be stopped. Perhaps my reasons are not good enough for some to agree.

And if the majority of illegals did file tax returns, I would be more apt to amend my opinion.

And I'm aware of American citizens who don't file returns. I'm not in favor of that either.

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Perhaps my bottom line doesn't even have to do with taxes. The fact that they are ILLEGAL is enough for me. I may have muddied my opinion by bringing up taxes as an example.