cwilhelmi --- no chill pill needed here.

I stand by what I said ... and I still feel that the proper protocol would have been to check with the seller about a problem before posting a warning that could have impact on sales.

Hey, everyones different, I guess. And if you re-read the posts here, you'll find a few who posted that feel the same.

Slim, one question.
If I went through protocal and they gave a satisfactory response (say replace cigar), would it then be appropriate to post? Would CB CS then contact each person who won this auction along with CI purchasers for a heads up?

Bassit, all that is being stated is there is a proffessional protocal that should be followed when addressing issues, you did not do that, and you stated that due to financial reasons.
Your comment can be construed as "Cbid cigars are infested" by those who have no experience with this site.

Thanks Mean ... that's all I was trying to get across. Some folks seem to think that because they are invisible on the internet, courtesies that one would grant in normal life doesn't apply here.

bassithound - sure, and why not? Once you gave CI/CB the opportunity to right the problem, I don't see why you shouldn't post your experience. As far as CI/CB contacting each and every person who won or bought these particular cigars ... do you realize what you just said? Besides being a huge amount of work ... why would they want to alarm someone who may not even have a problem? Most folks here who have problems, contact Customer Service ... and all is taken care of.

What you dont seem to realize, if you had contacted them, more than likely, they would have replaced the whole sampler for you ...

Am I missing something here?
The original post was very obvious in its intent to warn about a particular cigar sampler. No mention was made to negatively affect CB.
Then comes the posts of "professional courtesy".
You've got to be sh*tting me. We get a friendly heads-up and in return the posting party gets accused of singlehandedly putting Cigarbid out of business.
At what point did CBid hire Board Bouncers to patrol the forum?
I only mention this because this place is starting to look eerily similar to another cigar forum which I can't stomach. You know the one, where someone gets ousted for suggesting that their evening Fuente burned uneven.
Had I purchased that sampler, I would have been very thankful for the notice.
Anybody who would be scared off by the benign post doesn't deserve to bid on fine cigars.

Tailgater ... this is a dead issue. It's been settled and we've moved on.

If you don't have a clue as to the point being made here ... it's best you don't comment on it.

... just let it go.

Yeah. How dare you try to post an opinion. What the hell is wrong with you?

... a claim that cigars have beetle holes in them is not an opinion, it is a fact.

If everyone would just calm down and think about what is being said here ... I don't think there would even be an issue to discuss.

No one here is telling bassit he can't post his opinions here, or anywhere else, for that matter.

Think about it. Lets say you sent bassit some cigars in a trade, and before he even gave you the the opportunity to work it out in private first ... he went public with it giving everyone a warning he got cigars from you that had beetle holes in them.

Do you think many at that particular forum would jump at the chance to do trades with you in the future?

I don't know how much simpler I can make my point ... and I did the best I could. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.

... and as far as tailgaiter goes ... he has a right to his opinions too, but I think he missed the point.

That's all ... and I just voiced my opinion on his comments.

It's not the same thing, your point doesn't apply!! If it was know that Bassit had done trades with 70 of your friends and yourself all for the exact same thing. Wouldn't you want to be warned if someone received infested cigars? Especially if the ones you received hadn't quite hatched yet? I sure as hell would.

Bassit could have handled it better with letting cbid know, but I doubt that would have made a difference to the board bouncers!!

And I believe delarob's post was about your response to tailgater voicing his opinion, not on the factual evidence of wheter or not there was beetle holes.

E-Chick - add Sanctimoniousness / Infallibility 101 to your course list

Slimboli, what is your birthday? Were you born in Late August or September before the 23rd?

My wife is an astrologer, and she may be able to help explain that Pittbull thing you have going, there 🙂

Just so you know I am not trying to give you a hard time, I have found the CBID CS to be exceptional, and I would certainly give them first crack at a response. It is common courtesy, akin to don't air dirty laundry, if it isn't necessary.

cwilhelmi - like I said above, if you don't get it, you just don't get it ... and that is the only point the 'board bouncers' here were trying to make. If bassit would have posted in the beginning that he had beetle holes, but CB took care of it, etc ... there would have been no complaints from anyone here. I'd be willing to bet a box of cigars on it.

PMoreno349 - LOL! No pitbull thing going here, just a bad habit of running something into the ground trying to get my point across, sometimes )most of the time?) LOL!

I can now see that most of the folks here do understand the points both Mr.Mean and I were trying to get across, and it's becoming redundantly hard for me to try to get through to those that don't ...

...hey, everyone defines ethics in their own way, I guess. So ... I'm ending any further participation on my part in this discussion.

I've said all that I can ... except to say to cwilhelmi ... you want me to compromise what I think is the honorable thing to do ... and that makes you think I'm sanctimonious (though I don't understand what you mean by hypocritically pious) and infallible, thank you for the 'infallible' compliment. It's good that you think that I am incapable of error, when it pertains to doing what is considered to be the 'right thing' to do.

Gee, I don't see any other person saying they received bettle enhanced cigars. Was this guy the only one to buy the IT sampler? The point is, solve your problems with the correct people before you post disparaging words.

In no way am I asking you to comprimise what you think, It's just the way you come down on people all the time doesn't aid in making your point. People make mistakes, like I said Bassit could have handled it better.

Sorry for the sanctimoniousness crack, it was not necessary.

that was from me, my buddy had logged into check his lots. Sorry!!

No problem cwilhelmi/djsarason, or whomever you are. LOL!

I am a little bothered that you state, "It's just the way you come down on people all the time ..."

Oh, come on now ... is that all I do here? 😉, and ... all the time?

Slim- I thought you were done... LOL!

... I am, sorry ...

grrrrrrrr....