jazzman
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23 years ago
Did anybody watch the world series pregame show last nite? They counted down the top 10 greatest baseball moments. It was supposedly figured by fan voting. Hank Aarons 715th HR was voted #2, and Cal Ripken's ironman streak was voted #1. This is an outrage---Aaron's moment should've been #1 hands down. What do you think?
Charlie
23 years ago
Hard to pick/vote or select the number 1 baseball moment, while I agree that all of the moments featured in top vote were really great moments in the game........not sure which should be number one! I would select the 61st home run hit by Roger Maris, but this is only a matter of opinion based on fact that the baseballs and players were not "juiced up" and on all kinds of miracle products and it was a great moment! I remember when he hit it, as I was a teenager and people were all pulling against him! Watch the Crystal movie 61*, pretty good movie about the great days of baseball!

Charlie
huttman78
23 years ago
Jackie Robinson should be #1. Cal Ripken's mark was just fresh in everyone's mind.
cwilhelmi
23 years ago
I think Gehrig's speech is my top moment!

Charlie - 61* is a great movie, I would say Maris is a close second for me. The players today just don't have the same love and respect for the game that used to be so pervasive in baseball. For the most part the game is now played by overpaid cry babies , which saddens me since it used to be so pure…
SteveS
23 years ago
As much as I like and respect you guys, I'm going to take exception with pretty much everything you've said ...

IMHO, Cal Ripken's streak and Robinson's rookie year, noteworthy and significant accomplishments to be sure, were NOT "moments" at all. Even Aaron's 715th was not so much a "moment" as a foregone conclusion, the culmination of a long chain of smaller moments.

To me, memorable moments are the unanticipated, the dramatic change in direction, the surprising, ... I think Lou Gehrig's speech was a moment ... May's catch in '54 and Don Larson's perfecto in '56 were "moments" ... Gibson's homer off the Eck, now THOSE were "moments" ... and how 'bout the ball between Billy Buck's legs?? THAT was a memorable moment! ... even the line drive off Gil McDougal's bat that hit Herb Score in face ('57) was a memorable "moment", albeit a rather disturbing one.

I think that the problem is those doing the voting ... for the most part, they never saw a ballgame before the 80's, so "moments" are either recent events or are "feel-good" and "PC" occurances they've seen in old news footage ...

All that said, I thought the most moving of the "moments" we saw last night was Pete Rose ... I was pleased that he got a standing "O", pleased that he was included among the "moments" acknowledged last night and wish someone with a clue could take control of the process that would allow Pete being elected to the HoF ... it's off-topic to say so, but I feel strongly that he rightfully belongs there.

I'd have voted for Bobby Thompson's '51 homer being MY most memorable moment, followed by Gehrig's speech (even though I've only seen the film), Gibson's homer, and May's catch in '54, Henderson's homer for the Red Sox in their win over the Angels in the '86 ALCS ...
jazzman
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23 years ago
What about "MOST IMPORTANT ACHIEVEMENT"
cwilhelmi
23 years ago
Steve - You typed such a long book that my post must have snuck in while you were typing... I agree with the differentiation between moments and occurrences!!
SteveS
23 years ago
a long book, eh? ... I guess so ... I type pretty quickly and tend to create posts in much the same manner as I speak ... and my being Irish, I guess I do tend to speak ... and speak ... LOL
xibbumbero
23 years ago
Couldn't have said it better Steve. I also include Fiskie's Hr in 6th game of WS in beantown. X
SteveS
23 years ago
X, my oldest son says that it was that game and that homerun that led him to become the die-hard Sox fan that he is ... he lists that as HIS most memorable moment even though he was one of the press who covered Ryan's no-hitter that was one of the winners.
BDS
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23 years ago
I have to agree with Steve it must be a Bay area thing, but being young still I don't remember a lot of thoes things only as clips from replays. I would have to say for me the most memerable is sitting in the stick in '89 and being shaken like a James Bond martini.
Charlie
23 years ago
Steve, your definition of moments really was well done, how about beh Babe's last appearance in Yankee stadium suffering from cancer and weighing in about 150 lbs. Another moment, that I remember was when Dave Draveky came back to pitch for the Giants and threw a shutout! What inspiration!

There are so many moments in the great game, and it is too bad that today's players do not respect and honor the game the way they used to-I am sure some do...Curt Schilling comes to mind along with Brian Giles, and a few others! It is a great game and that is why I have the video series Baseball by Ken Burns and other historical tapes and DVD's about the game in my collection!

Great moments also include Bob Gibson domination of the NY Yankees in the 1964 World Series, the Miracle Mets of '69 World Series win over Baltimore, the 61 season with the NY Yankees after the Babe's mark! I could go on and on, but I am sure I am boring most of you...........Sorry, I love Baseball! Everybody has their top moments and top achievements in their mind and will argue the points and merits of each and every one, and that is why baseball is the game that it is!!!

Charlie
SteveS
23 years ago
What part of the Bay Area are you in, BDS ??

drop me an e-mail when you get a chance, will you?

fromsteves(at)hotmail(dot)com
jazzman
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23 years ago
Well said, Charlie
Mr.Mean
23 years ago
My moments? Jose Cruz throwing out Ray Knight at the plate from left field, no bounce.
E-Chick
23 years ago
Not a mention of Ted Williams?
cwilhelmi
23 years ago
Teddy Ballgame is my favorite baseball player ever!! I don't know if I can narrow it down to one moment for him, I guess I feel that his sheer ability and love of the game are a moment in itself. Good catch E, can’t talk about baseball without mentioning Ted Williams!!
Charlie
23 years ago
How about the fact that in his last at bat with Boston he he hit a home run!

Charlie
Soulwound
23 years ago
My 10 in no particular order...


1) Steve "Those base lines look snortable" Howe gets caught coking up for the 9th time in his career.


2) George Brett vs Billy Martin, Tar Wars '83


3) Jose Canseco assists with a homerun by having it bounce off his head over the fence.


4) Disco Demolition night!


5) Walter O' Malley suddenly yanks Brooklyn's favorite boys away, out to the land of palm trees and plastic surgery.


6) Buckner.


7) William Ligue and son decide to hop the fence at Comiskey park to express their displeasure with coaching performance of Tom Gamboa, only to have their fists pummeled repeatedly by Tom's face.


8) The All-Star Tie

9) Ty Cobb jumps the stands to beat the living heck out of a cripple/amputee when he thought he was being heckled...


10) And finally... Morganna, Morganna, Morganna!!!








SteveS
23 years ago
yes, there WAS a mention of Ted ... he was voted as one of the top memories for his 1941 season in which he hit .406 ... specifically, for having gone out to play in a double-header on the last day when he could've sat out with a .39956 average and had it rounded up to .400 ... instead, he played both games and got something like 9 total hits ...
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