What's sad is people end up supporting policies that work against their own interests. Like tax cuts for the wealthy, repealing health care and no 'death taxes' etc. The masses that carry signs and rally for these things are not going to benefit from these things, and in most cases they will be hurt by them. But they have been convinced it is the 'moral' and 'patriotic' thing to do because it's labeled as socialist or worse communist. It's tragically and pathetically sad.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Well, if I have been brainwashed, at least I can make my points calmly and rationally without insults. I'm not part of a mob that verbally attacks someone who disagrees with me and tells them they don't belong, calls them goon, f*g, etc.

FuzzNJ wrote:

What kind of inferior thinking reasons that we should tax Hard earned success or An inheritance that someone worked decades to make for his children or Grandchildren?

Talk about Counter Productive !

jackconrad wrote:

First, I found nothing wrong in the original post. The fact is that the right wing is on the correct side of every issues, anywhere from the economy, to morality, to just about anything else.

And it is no big surprise that Fuzz thinks that by pursuading people in the middle is somehow wrong.

I fail to see how tax cuts for the "wealthy" (I must be wealthy as I have directly benefitted from the Bush tax cuts), and repeal of the estate tax (a tax on an estate that was taxed during its formation) is going against my own interests.

It is the folly of an envious mind that assumes that people who have something more than someone else are somehow evil and do not deserve such things. These are usually the types who are easily pursuaded to storm the walls so that left-wing elites can use them as cannon fodder.

Lets face it: guys like Fuzz outright hate people who have more of something than him. Whether they worked for it or not is irrelevent in the mind of Fuzzy Wuzzy. They don't deserve it. Period.

Typically, peiople like Fuzz are never satisfied with brining down giants, mainly because it is usually too much work. After some effort, they usually go after easier prey...like the neighbor next door, or the guy who owns the dry cleaners down the street.

jpotts wrote:

No. You just make fun of their wives and kids, and other associated family.

You're such brave, brave...er..."man" there Fuzz.

jpotts wrote:

You sure whine a lot for someone who is a 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps' kind of guy. It's always someone else's fault. The school system, the teacher, your boss, the government, etc. Rarely have I seen you actually take responsibility for yourself. Strange that.

FuzzNJ wrote:

At the very least, I'm not the not advocating picking someone else's pocket there Fuzz.

And, for the record, I've done more bootstrap pulling - and been sucessful at it - than you have. I guess that's probably the reason why I don't envy the wealth of others. I make things happen.

You, on the other hand...

jpotts wrote:

Ah yes, ignore the words in my posts that refute your presuppositions and just keep going with your narrative. And might I suggest a spell checker?

FuzzNJ wrote:

Fuzzy, Fuzzy, Fuzzy...

You could suggest a spell-checker. I might suggest you purchase a few I.Q. points. You're sorely lacking in that department. Then again, snotty remarks about my spelling is usually the first indicator that you're out of intellectual ammo, and are reduced to throwing rocks.

As for my "presuppositions", any presupposition is an assumption that I had that may or may not have been congruent with the facts. Since I agree with a HUGE portion of your original post - the stuff you think is so shocking - your claim that I am "denying" your "revelations" (which, I might add, are laughable) is idiotic.

So, I'll use a spell checker when you decide to pull your head out of your a**. Seriously, Fuzz, do you have any clue as to the meaning of the words you use, or do you just throw them out there thinking that everyone is going to be impressed with the fact that you can use words that are longer than five letters?

Really Fuzzy, when it comes to weighty matters like politics, you should leave that to the adults. You're a little out of your depth.

jpotts wrote:

I had no doubt that you would agree with the original post. I do find it interesting though that you wouldn't be offended that the right wing elites think they can insult your intelligence like that, you have an opportunity to read it and you think it's just fine. But then again, I have not known you to have many original thoughts.

And I am lmao at the 'intellectual ammo' remark considering you were the one to bring up a year old issue in your first foray into this thread.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Me bringing up a year-old issue? Crap, Fuzz, I posted one time on the THH - not even directed at you - and you went off all frothing-at-the-mouth because you still haven't somehow gotten over me yet.

You, sir, are the last one to talk about picking at scabs. You've been nursing an open wound for a long time now. Which is why - after claiming you've "sworn off" this place - you're back posting your same idiotic drivel.

Second, said remarks were not my first foray into this thread, dumba**. Now, in addition to a poor grasp of the English language, you can't quite count either.

What does insult my intelligence is lack-wits like you who run around claiming that we need to "take" from someone because they have "too much" of something. Not to mention your moronic concept of corporatism. It is not only juvenile, it is part of the sordid human condition that has been fostered for thousands of years.

Face it Fuzz, you're worse than the people who are always trying to keep up with the Joneses. Instead of making more and spending more, you pull down the Joneses to that they have as much or less than you. And you want the rest of us to respect you? Pffth! My eleven-year old has more depth and dignity than that.

Were it not for the fumes in the fuel tank that powers that thing you call a brain, you'd probably stop breathing.

jpotts wrote:

So, let's see what Fuzz advocates:

1) Taking stuff from people who work for a living if Fuzz decides they make too much.

2) For public school teachers to harass and run down little children, especially if they one day disagree with Fuzz.

3) Bringing illegal substances into his house for purposes of relaxation.

4) Making fun of of Autistic people.

5) Hating conservative women.

jpotts wrote:

98.2% of house husbands envy the wealthy.

donutboy2000 wrote:

If you will be inheriting an estate worth more than 5 million dollars, then it wouldn't effect you at all, it does, however, effect me and my family. Now how in the hell does that make me envious of you?

The thing is there are a great deal of people who actually don't work for that money, it's inherited, it's old money. The entire 'work hard and you can make it' story is mostly bs. Sure, there are exceptions and some actually do get lucky, but most people work their asses off and get screwed over and over. Their 401k's and other retirement accounts get wiped out by people who play fast and loose with the money they invest. The housing market gets hosed because of Wall Street con games wiping out the equity in their biggest investment. And right wing politicians want to put their social security in the market, or cut it completely.

I don't hate people who have more than me, not at all. I have more than most, and thankful for it. The statistics show that the top 1% have more wealth than they have ever had before in this country and it's because of our public policy. The middle class no longer matters, and that is not productive for a democratic society. And yes, voting for people who support policies that keep it that way is voting against your own interests.

FuzzNJ wrote:

As far as health care is concerned, the bill helps small businesses afford to give their employees health care, it allows children to remain on their parents policy longer which is great because the job market sucks and most starting jobs don't offer health care. And it stops insurance companies from dropping someone for whatever reason they want. Plus, more people with insurance makes a bigger pool. This is intended to reduce bankruptcies due to medical bills, the number one reason for bankruptcies in this country.

FuzzNJ wrote: