HockeyDad
15 years ago

Yes, one could make that argument, but the increase of troops in Afghanistan was requested by the military to fight back the resurgent Taliban. The increased drone attacks and increased use of special forces to take out al Qaeda and other terrorist threats was aimed at getting bin Laden and other high value targets all over the world, including Pakistan.

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Who cares about the Taliban....that is nation building. I thought we were after Bin Laden.

The increased drone attacks and increased use of special forces to take out al Qaeda and other terrorist threats was aimed at getting bin Laden and other high value targets all over the world, including Pakistan and that is all neat information but as it turns out Bin Laden had been living in a million dollar house in Pakistan for many years including the entire span of the Obama administration.
teedubbya
15 years ago
I see a bunch of words but nothing that says Bush somehow lessoned his desire or intent to go after terrorists. Revisionist nonsense and really not very sound logic. Change will continue and resources will be reallocated. people with differing agendas will disagree on the best approaches....

but if anyone really beleives the neuvo left mantra that somehow Bush became disinterested in terrorism and the Big O was a fired up terrorist go getter than they are a complete political hack or idiot. I'll say it again... Bush was obsessed with the boogieman. He didn't all of a sudden become unobsessed. This is a manufactured storyline with very little truth.

The same nonsense happens pointed at the big o on other issues. Complete nonsense is spewed as fact with correlations drawn that just don't exist. If you beleive this nonsense Fuzz then you have the same credibility as the birthers. nonsense
teedubbya
15 years ago
Bush sucked. he was really REALLY bad. but he was a dog on a bone on the terrorism issue. maybe too much so. I think we overreacted. I could fault him for that. but faulting him the other direction is pretty stupid and not genuine.

Iraq is an issue folks try to tie to that (and Bush deserves it to an extent because he tied it to terrorism, wmd, yellow cake etc). He really botched that one. His admin lied and spun and spun. He sucks. But I will never doubt his integrity and his efforts on the terrorism issue. He was on it and wanted it done. A bit caveleir maybe. I think the lefties are making a big mistake trying to manfacture this picture. The last time I saw this sort of mistake is when an admin was trying to manufacture a picture very different than the one painted by Hans Blix.
DrafterX
15 years ago
ya... it's a shame OBL was Bushwhacked.... 🤣
ZRX1200
15 years ago
TW, this is all part of operation
"Same as it ever was"......
FuzzNJ
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15 years ago

Who cares about the Taliban....that is nation building. I thought we were after Bin Laden.

The increased drone attacks and increased use of special forces to take out al Qaeda and other terrorist threats was aimed at getting bin Laden and other high value targets all over the world, including Pakistan and that is all neat information but as it turns out Bin Laden had been living in a million dollar house in Pakistan for many years including the entire span of the Obama administration.

HockeyDad wrote:



The United States cares about the Taliban because they harbored Al Qaeda. If they control Afghanistan, they could do so again.

"in Pakistan for many years including the entire span of the Obama administration."

Now that is freakin' hilarious right there from someone accusing me of being blinded by partisanship. The entire span, 2 years. Reports say he'd been there 5, so that's 3 years he was there during the Bush administration. And most wanted for over 7 years of the Bush administration. lmfao
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15 years ago

I see a bunch of words but nothing that says Bush somehow lessoned his desire or intent to go after terrorists. Revisionist nonsense and really not very sound logic. Change will continue and resources will be reallocated. people with differing agendas will disagree on the best approaches....

but if anyone really beleives the neuvo left mantra that somehow Bush became disinterested in terrorism and the Big O was a fired up terrorist go getter than they are a complete political hack or idiot. I'll say it again... Bush was obsessed with the boogieman. He didn't all of a sudden become unobsessed. This is a manufactured storyline with very little truth.

The same nonsense happens pointed at the big o on other issues. Complete nonsense is spewed as fact with correlations drawn that just don't exist. If you beleive this nonsense Fuzz then you have the same credibility as the birthers. nonsense

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Yeah, I guess you are looking for Bush to actually say "I'm not looking for bin Laden as hard as I used to". But he only said "I don't know where he [Osama Bin Laden] is. I — I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

And all evidence shows the resources were diverted, even statements from Generals.

I also said I was certain the Bush administration would have LOVED to get bin Laden, it was just made much more difficult for them to do so because they had to 'go to war with the army they have, not the army they want'.

So all these things put together isn't enough to draw a conclusion, it's just so damn vague.

I see this dude smoking a cigarette, throw it in a wastebasket full of paper as he said "I hate this place". At that point I walked away to get a fire extinguisher, but couldn't find one fast enough and by time I got back the entire room was on fire. I didn't actually see the fire break out, and I didn't actually hear the guy say that he was going to burn the place down, so I really can't be sure how that fire broke out. Too many empty steps that are so vague no one can piece it together. It's a mystery.
HockeyDad
15 years ago

The United States cares about the Taliban because they harbored Al Qaeda. If they control Afghanistan, they could do so again.

"in Pakistan for many years including the entire span of the Obama administration."

Now that is freakin' hilarious right there from someone accusing me of being blinded by partisanship. The entire span, 2 years. Reports say he'd been there 5, so that's 3 years he was there during the Bush administration. And most wanted for over 7 years of the Bush administration. lmfao

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You call it hilarious but then fully agree with it.

The entire span = 2 years. Fact

Many years = some number greater than 2 years. 5 years would qualify. Fact.


You just hate it when it is done to you and your agenda but it is so simple. Yes, you are blinded by partisanship.
teedubbya
15 years ago
[quote=FuzzNJ]Yeah, I guess you are looking for Bush to actually say "I'm not looking for bin Laden as hard as I used to". But he only said "I don't know where he [Osama Bin Laden] is. I — I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."


Any arsepipe would know he was saying OBL was a subset of the entire picture. To take it to the extreme you and your like do is simply silly.

honestly Fuzz.... you beleive what you want to beleive. I've actually seen you make some credible arguments against some of the groupthink in here. But if you really beleive this line of BS than you are what you seem to want to argue with. A mind numbed partisan cliche.
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15 years ago

You call it hilarious but then fully agree with it.

The entire span = 2 years. Fact

Many years = some number greater than 2 years. 5 years would qualify. Fact.


You just hate it when it is done to you and your agenda but it is so simple. Yes, you are blinded by partisanship.

HockeyDad wrote:



lmao, and you chose to phrase it the way you did out of purely fair and balanced reasons. Give me a break.
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15 years ago

[quote=FuzzNJ]Yeah, I guess you are looking for Bush to actually say "I'm not looking for bin Laden as hard as I used to". But he only said "I don't know where he [Osama Bin Laden] is. I — I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."


Any arsepipe would know he was saying OBL was a subset of the entire picture. To take it to the extreme you and your like do is simply silly.

honestly Fuzz.... you beleive what you want to beleive. I've actually seen you make some credible arguments against some of the groupthink in here. But if you really beleive this line of BS than you are what you seem to want to argue with. A mind numbed partisan cliche.

teedubbya wrote:



And you can continue to discount the overwhelming evidence of how the previous administration changed priorities because of the Iraq invasion. I choose not to. It was a bad decision for a number of reasons, not the least of which, it hindered the 'war on terror'.
HockeyDad
15 years ago

lmao, and you chose to phrase it the way you did out of purely fair and balanced reasons. Give me a break.

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No I did not. I phrased it for purely manipulative purposes just to show you how easy it is done. You eat this stuff for breakfast and regurgitate it as fact. Just like you did in the first post.

You are blinded and manipulated by political ideology. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
HockeyDad
15 years ago

And you can continue to discount the overwhelming evidence of how the previous administration changed priorities because of the Iraq invasion. I choose not to. It was a bad decision for a number of reasons, not the least of which, it hindered the 'war on terror'.

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During that time we had troops both publicly and quietly all over the world. You're still stuck on the idea that the USA only had the ability to operate in Afghanistan or Iraq but not both. (That thinking actually goes contrary to the strategy of the US armed forces. Our military is not a one war military and has not been since WW2)


...but it fits your agenda.
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15 years ago

No I did not. I phrased it for purely manipulative purposes just to show you how easy it is done. You eat this stuff for breakfast and regurgitate it as fact. Just like you did in the first post.

You are blinded and manipulated by political ideology. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

HockeyDad wrote:



Ah, all part of your master genius plan. Super genius you. Go on with your bad self.
HockeyDad
15 years ago

Ah, all part of your master genius plan. Super genius you. Go on with your bad self.

FuzzNJ wrote:




No it is not part of some master genius plan. (I would never share that on CBid) It is just another day in the life of American us versus them politics created by us globalists to keep you peasants occupied. It works 98.2% of the time.

Just remember....your side is correct, the other side are idiots and almost as dangerous as terrorists.

Life is good.
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15 years ago

You're still stuck on the idea that the USA only had the ability to operate in Afghanistan or Iraq but not both.

HockeyDad wrote:




One, I did not say we can only operate in one of those countries. I said resources were diverted and Afghanistan fell down on the priority list.

And two, I guess you're right. It's all just my whacky opinion. All those links and quotes from Generals and the report from the Army itself who say otherwise don't exist.
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15 years ago

No it is not part of some master genius plan. (I would never share that on CBid) It is just another day in the life of American us versus them politics created by us globalists to keep you peasants occupied. It works 98.2% of the time.

Just remember....your side is correct, the other side are idiots and almost as dangerous as terrorists.

Life is good.

HockeyDad wrote:



Yeah, an impartial, take no sides person you certainly are. Quite obvious. You are just above all of it. We are all in awe.
HockeyDad
15 years ago

Yeah, an impartial, take no sides person you certainly are. Quite obvious. You are just above all of it. We are all in awe.

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You should be in awe. Someone has to pull the strings of you partisan hacks. It's a thankless job, I tell ya.
HockeyDad
15 years ago

One, I did not say we can only operate in one of those countries. I said resources were diverted and Afghanistan fell down on the priority list.

And two, I guess you're right. It's all just my whacky opinion. All those links and quotes from Generals and the report from the Army itself who say otherwise don't exist.

FuzzNJ wrote:





It is just your wacky opinion as needed to suit your political agenda. No big deal, it is what you're supposed to do. We probably ran out of resources while we attacked Iraq. Good thing the Russians didn't hit us and find out all our bases were empty.
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15 years ago

It is just your wacky opinion as needed to suit your political agenda. No big deal, it is what you're supposed to do. We probably ran out of resources while we attacked Iraq. Good thing the Russians didn't hit us and find out all our bases were empty.

HockeyDad wrote:



It's so great that you and every other right wing person here is free of 'political agendas'. This is a real special place to be on the 'internets'. The fact that the secret hasn't spread far and wide is a mystery.
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