Bullsh*t Bullsh*t Bullsh*t and you are full of sh*t.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Did you walk away from an underwater mortgage? I'm not sure how that got in the conversation.

HockeyDad wrote:

Did you walk away from an underwater mortgage? I'm not sure how that got in the conversation.

HockeyDad wrote:

Most people can understand analogies, most.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Hahaha... this is funny.... you are so selective...

What is the basis for some of your beliefs? It appears that all you do is regurgitate news/articles and others opinions as your own. Any time I see you say things without quoting or citing another source you end up contradicting yourself. Just sayin.... and all I want to know is the basis of your beliefs.

Nicar wrote:

Selective?

And show me where I got this from. I haven't heard the analogy before actually and it was my own. Where do you think the contradiction is exactly?

FuzzNJ wrote:

Deflection... nice defense


I made an analogy before... and you didn't see it and thought it was ludicrous and irrelevant

So, basis of belief?? I answered your deflection

Nicar wrote:

That what you're looking for?

FuzzNJ wrote:

So your criticism about posting beliefs that are not my own was not referring to the post you were responding to?

I have no idea what analogy you are talking about, but if I thought it was irrelevant, then it probably was. Not all analogies are good ones. I don't get the point. I do now understand what you meant by selective though. I can't read your mind you know.

The basis for my beliefs? I'm not sure what you mean by that really. I was raised in a Christian home, my father is a minister (retired), I no longer think a god exists and haven't since age 15, but the principles that Jesus lived by were pretty reasonable, with the exception of anything divine.

That what you're looking for?

FuzzNJ wrote:

In the context of most of your posts, I would say that is not the basis for your beliefs.

HockeyDad wrote:

That's a good start...

You make statements about letting rationale thinkers reply... and sometimes aren't open to allow it...

Nicar wrote:

I already know you don't see how government can kill someone, so of course, you would find many things wrong with this execution.

Nicar wrote:

Being in Texas... and having been in past couple years across to a couple of the border towns.. and with the changes to requiring a passport now to go across... I can tell you that it doesn't matter what's done here in the US. in Mexico, you will be treated as they see fit, I have heard many many stories even before these worse times, that depending on areas of travel, you would need to make sure you had money to bribe officials. No, you have to worry about the Federales... the drug runners. It's not safe to travel in Mexico unless you go to the tourist places.. and there, you need to stay there. A lot of money has been loss in the cities by the US border.. so they now are finding other ways. With this person being executed... it will not escalate anything that hasn't already been escalated by means of survival.

Nicar wrote:

It is what it is and hasn't made Americans any less at risk in Mexico or any where else. This is more smoke being blown and deflection from what is wrong with the US... the high unemployment... the wrongful ways that people took advantage of mortgages... the near-sighted views of the country that those in office and business have. Lots of companies are looking to go cheaper... they are not worried about profits, they are worried about the increase of their profits to continually increase year after year and not increase their employees wages, but their own overly filled pockets.

So, if there is any bullshit, then it is what big corporations and the government are focusing on, and the bleeding heart nut jobs that want a socialistic society

Nicar wrote:

Damn, I can't get anything right. Do you have any idea what the basis of of my beliefs are? I went all the way back to the beginning which I thought would be the basis, foundation etc.

FuzzNJ wrote:

The analogy I made with mortages had to do with following contracts and obligations. Conservatives were outraged that individuals in this country were not doing it and called it a moral failure. But when the country or state does it, it is somehow ok?

FuzzNJ wrote:

I'll take a shot at it.

You spent a few years in college.
You spent a limited number of years in the workforce.
You got forced out of the workforce.
You've spent many years out of the workforce ever since.

This is a different life experience than many here and affects beliefs greatly. I suspect this would have a much greater influence on beliefs than just some religious friction issues with daddy.

HockeyDad wrote:

Doesn't matter one bit in this case at all. This is the same argument made to justify other violations of international law and treaties that the US has signed. Doesn't matter how much some people in whatever country are, if the country has agreed to abide by a law, it should, period. We can't just disregard it whenever we see fit and expect other countries to abide by the treaties and law. Wouldn't you agree?

FuzzNJ wrote: