you just called him a bum...

wow !

wheelrite wrote:

That is not true at all.

Everybody has different life experiences that affect their beliefs differently.

HockeyDad wrote:

Allow it? Anyone can present any argument they want, some are illogical and in the course of the conversation I would think I would be given the courtesy to point that out, just as anyone has and does with what I say, all the time.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Doesn't matter one bit in this case at all. This is the same argument made to justify other violations of international law and treaties that the US has signed. Doesn't matter how much some people in whatever country are, if the country has agreed to abide by a law, it should, period. We can't just disregard it whenever we see fit and expect other countries to abide by the treaties and law. Wouldn't you agree?

FuzzNJ wrote:

This treaty, if someone commits a crime like this, they will be deported back to their own country, and then what? Nothing? So, lets go to other countries, and commit crimes, and say wait.. dont punish us here.. send us back to the US!

Nicar wrote:

Many Americans do not realize that the USA has signed a number of treaties and international laws that take supersede over US Federal and State laws.

HockeyDad wrote:

I'm not sure that is a true statement about conservatives being outraged. I think the analogy is bogus.

HockeyDad wrote:

I'll take a shot at it.

You spent a few years in college.
You spent a limited number of years in the workforce.
You got forced out of the workforce.
You've spent many years out of the workforce ever since.

This is a different life experience than many here and affects beliefs greatly. I suspect this would have a much greater influence on beliefs than just some religious friction issues with daddy.

HockeyDad wrote:

I see now. You misunderstand what the treaty in question actually says! It doesn't say you must deport the individual, they don't have immunity. They should only be allowed access to their embassies counsel.

I hope that settles everything for you.

FuzzNJ wrote:

I'll take a shot at it.

You spent a few years in college.
You spent a limited number of years in the workforce.
You got forced out of the workforce.
You've spent many years out of the workforce ever since.

This is a different life experience than many here and affects beliefs greatly. I suspect this would have a much greater influence on beliefs than just some religious friction issues with daddy.

HockeyDad wrote:

I can't express how grateful I am for your analysis. It is great comfort that I can go to someone who knows so much about me, my life and how each life experience has impacted me and with what emphasis.

I am off to a local B&M to smoke a few where I will contemplate your wisdom more thoroughly.

Forever yours.

Fuzz

FuzzNJ wrote:

All I can do is quote Metallica "Kill 'em All"

Time to kick the U.N. off U.S soil
Time to leave NATO
Time to stop borrowing from China and then giving those $ to 2/3 of the world as economic/military aid

Time to execute ALL death row inmates and free up more prison space

engletl wrote:

Soñaba la pobre mula vieja, pobre mula vieja... (rough translation: dream on)
There will be a total collapse before all that happens, my friend.

bloody spaniard wrote: