Poll Question: Should Tim Thomas have visited with Obama? (Poll is closed)
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Wasn't he a basketball player in college, I think playing for Florida? He was applauded for his courage.
Oh how times they are a changin.

dubleuhb wrote:



Really? I don't remember any of that, but you are saying he was applauded like you guys are applauding this guy and of course then you were in agreement with him because it's his choice right?

Find out who it was and get back to us. Then we can compare the reaction.
herfidore
14 years ago
Means nothing to me. I don't look to athletes for my political compass anymore than I look to actors. However, I do find the double standard employed by some on these boards amusing
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Nobody is applauding him you jack wagon.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Obama is a fücking dictator!

Dickhead move? Sure you could say that for sure on respect to the Kenyan king and his teammates.

Un-American? Now that just shows you ignorance.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/scott-janssen/chicago-bears-white-house_b_981851.html 

ZRX1200 wrote:




Dictator? Allrighty then. You should be removed from all political conversations as you are a non logical, idiot ideologue if you think our elected president is anything close to a dictator. Here's your sign.

God damn that's being a moron, seriously.
tailgater
14 years ago

Really? I don't remember any of that, but you are saying he was applauded like you guys are applauding this guy and of course then you were in agreement with him because it's his choice right?

Find out who it was and get back to us. Then we can compare the reaction.

FuzzNJ wrote:



You don't remember because you have selective memory.

And nobody is applauding.
Far from it.
We're just discussing your completely off-base cry of Thomas being un-American.

Once again, you miss the point entirely.
Par for the course.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

You don't remember because you have selective memory.

And nobody is applauding.
Far from it.
We're just discussing your completely off-base cry of Thomas being un-American.

Once again, you miss the point entirely.
Par for the course.

tailgater wrote:



No, I honestly don't remember. I have a really good memory for this kind of stuff too, this one escapes me. Let me know who it was and I can refresh my memory.

I understand your point, I just disagree with it. That happens in life, get used to it.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago
We must all celebrate that Thomas, born in Flint, Mich., nearly 38 years ago, has the right to say all of that and more, and we’ve grown accustomed to hearing near-identical dogma from the right wing/conservative/Tea Party end of our political spectrum for the last 2-3 years. He is a free man, living in a free country, and he can sing that blatherall from his hotel room, his crease, and the corner of Causeway and Staniford if he so chooses.

As a country, we’re not yet so deep in the handbasket that any of us has been denied that right. Thankfully.

But yesterday was not about politics and government until Thomas made it about politics and government. The day, long set on the calendar, was a day when the Boston Bruins were asked to visit Pennsylvania Avenue to celebrate what they did as a team last season. It was their day in the national spotlight, until Thomas didn’t show, and then the focal point became, much the way it would be in a hockey game, on the guy who was no longer standing in goal.

Shabby. Immature. Unprofessional. Self-centered. Bush league. Need I go on? All that and more applies to what Thomas did, on a day when Cup teammates Mark Recchi (now retired), Shane Hnidy (a radio guy these days in Winnipeg), and Tomas Kaberle (a member of some Original Six team in Canada), all gladly joined the red-white-blue-black-and-gold hugfest at the White House.

Thomas needed to be there in solidarity, and celebration, with his team. It was the same government yesterday, and will be today, that protected his country, his security, his family, and his right to make $5 million a year, all last season. In his absence, he stole his teammates’ spotlight. Win as a team. Lose as a team. And when asked to stand up and take a bow, then stand up there and suffer if need be, even if you don’t like the setting, the host, or any of the political trappings and tenets that come with it.

Team guys don’t opt out of team meetings or celebrations. Tyler Seguin goofed up earlier this season, missed a team breakfast and X-and-O session in Winnipeg, and found himself sitting in the press box that night. The importance of being on time, being present, was made clear to the 19-year-old winger. There’s no way for coach Claude Julien or GM Peter Chiarelli to do it, but their 37-year-old goalie is in need of the same kind of reminder.

Not a lot has changed in the US over the last two years, although it appears the economic picture is brightening at least a little bit, despite those in charge of our various governmental nuthouses. Unemployment has eased some and the Dow Jones industrial average has improved considerably. Politically, our nation is a mess, but the material Property of the People at least seems to be getting better. Not every house in the Lower 48 is up for short sale.

If Thomas is feeling the way he is today, it could not have happened overnight. He must have felt much the same just shy of 24 months ago when he sounded so proud to wear that Team USA sweater at the 2010 Olympics, and so proudly dipped his head to accept that silver medal. Or was he doing all of that under governmental duress, the pain of knowing our leaders were acting, as he wrote yesterday, “in direct opposition of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers’ vision of the Federal government.’’

Someone so disgusted with our government ought to turn in the sweater and the medal. It must be a horrible burden, if not a pox, to have them in his house.

Thomas didn’t need to issue a written statement yesterday, not when he could have made one by showing up at the White House and quietly picking his moment to utter a few simple words of disappointment to President Obama.

How easy, how far more courageous and honorable, it would have been to say, “Hi, I’m Tim Thomas, and I appreciate the fact my team was invited here today. I don’t like what’s going on in this country. I’m not the least bit impressed with your leadership. But I am proud of what we did, I’m proud to be an American, proud to be a Boston Bruin, and I’d like to see everyone in the government do a better job of adhering to the Constitution. Oh, and I’ve got a question for you about power plays . . . ’’

There isn’t a lot of that kind of honesty or directness in our country anymore. Rather than walk up to people in charge, most of whom don’t make themselves available anyway, we settle for silly ways to convey our point. We e-mail. We tweet. We drop a dime to a local newspaper reporter. We talk to the fifth in command, who we hope has the brass to talk to the fourth in command, who . . . well, it just seems we rarely get the chance to say what we really want to say, and say it directly to someone who counts.

Tim Thomas yesterday had a chance to tell the leader of the free world what he thinks it means to be an American today. Not just any American, mind you, but an Olympian, a multimillionaire, a hero in the city where he works, and a member of a championship team that has been a source of joy (and sorrow, too) to millions of Bostonians for nearly a century.

Instead, Thomas took his pads and blocker to another end of town and issued his statement. He could have talked to the president. Instead, he mailed one in from the pizza stand. I think he missed his chance. I think he missed the point of the day. I think he mistreated teammates.

And if I’m right, I think in the days ahead he’ll hear a voice of America representative of a people, many who are equally fed up with government today, who believe he simply should have showed up for his team, respectfully said what he had to say, and gone back to living a pretty good life. In America.

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2012/01/24/thomass_absence_left_bruins_shorthanded/ 
HockeyDad
14 years ago
dubleuhb
14 years ago
Sounds like envy on parade for the poor sportswriter. It is articles like this that keep it in the forefront, making something out of nothing.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

FuzzRage!

HockeyDad wrote:



As stale as Steve Martin's 'Exccuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse ME!'

You have ocd?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Sounds like envy on parade for the poor sportswriter. It is articles like this that keep it in the forefront, making something out of nothing.

dubleuhb wrote:



lmao, yes, the sports writers are making it an issue, they started it. Why didn't I see that all along? If no one knew about what he was doing, no problem. It's not like he released a statement to the press or anything.

/rolls eyes

The stupid things you have to think when you are conservative, I swear.
HockeyDad
14 years ago


You have ocd?

FuzzNJ wrote:



Maybe....You have a bad day? Too much month and not enough meds?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Maybe....You have a bad day? Too much month and not enough meds?

HockeyDad wrote:



No. You?

Thanks for caring. Call me and we can both talk about our days, who annoyed us, what we wore, who is the hottest at the office, you know, girl talk.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

No. You?

Thanks for caring. Call me and we can both talk about our days, who annoyed us, what we wore, who is the hottest at the office, you know, girl talk.

FuzzNJ wrote:





You got an office?
jackconrad
14 years ago
Who here gives a Flying Puck !
Rclay
14 years ago
It is fine for him to decline. If it were a righty in office it would be patriotic to protest, poop on squad cars, decline invites, State officials can runaway when legislation does not go their way.


There has been only once that I felt bad for Obama and that He had been insulted. When David Cross snorted coke at the same table as the president and bragged about it. That was upsetting to me.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
...plus he didn't share it with B.


Good way to get on the Obama Death List.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

It is fine for him to decline. If it were a righty in office it would be patriotic to protest, poop on squad cars, decline invites, State officials can runaway when legislation does not go their way.


There has been only once that I felt bad for Obama and that He had been insulted. When David Cross snorted coke at the same table as the president and bragged about it. That was upsetting to me.

Rclay wrote:



awwww, life is so unfair for you and conservatives huh? When are white christian conservatives gonna get a break?!

You're cute when you make stuff up and act like it's so unfair and especially when you bring up a comedian and what he does to try to assign some kind of guilt to your political enemies. I heard Hannity gets a boner when he get's close to George Bush, that's upsetting to me. Get me my fainting couch.
fiddler898
14 years ago
Who cares what Thomas did? He's a hockey player. He may put his head to good use, but it's not for thinking.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Nobody is applauding him you jack wagon.

ZRX1200 wrote:




Maybe Fuzz's kids or wife made that comment. You KNOW how they get when he gets all whipped into a froth!
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