DrafterX
14 years ago
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calavera
13 years ago

You are going to stand behind me while I give the front s little tug?

Freak.

teedubbya wrote:



You must have me confused with your dad. I want to be nowhere near you while you pull your pud.

Freak
robertknyc
13 years ago
About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.
teedubbya
13 years ago
Same for anyone who voted to reelect Bush. Morons in both cases.
robertknyc
13 years ago
Oh, for the lost opportunity to have had John Kerry as president...now THAT is moronic.
teedubbya
13 years ago
We don't know. That is the unknown. We knew what bush was and it was bad....really really bad. We really don't know what Kerry would have been as Prez. We can project but that's really not very accurate.

The same is true this round. We don't know what Romney will do.... he changes all the time anyway.... but we know what we have in Obama.... and its bad.... really really bad.

It is so strange folks can't see that.
teedubbya
13 years ago
But make no mistake I agree with you. The folks that vote for Obama this time are equally as stupid as the idiots that gave us bush's second term..... and the ones who voted for Carter's reelection etc...
robertknyc
13 years ago
Fine, say Bush is bad, but to call people who voted for him morons without even addressing, much less making the case for, his opponent is worthless emotional drivel. Obviously one can never know EXACTLY FOR SURE how someone who was not elected would have governed, that doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. I would take Bush, with his flaws, over Kerry any day.
ZRX1200
13 years ago
IDIOTS ON BOTH SIDES OUTRAGE!





who'd a thunk it.....
teedubbya
13 years ago

Fine, say Bush is bad, but to call people who voted for him morons without even addressing, much less making the case for, his opponent is worthless emotional drivel. Obviously one can never know EXACTLY FOR SURE how someone who was not elected would have governed, that doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. I would take Bush, with his flaws, over Kerry any day.

robertknyc wrote:




LOL

yet anyone voting for obama is an idiot

teedubbya
13 years ago
And I do think those that voted for Bush's second term are political morons. Same about Obama. I think someone should have run against Bush in the Primaries.
teedubbya
13 years ago

About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.

robertknyc wrote:



Fine, say Bush is bad, but to call people who voted for him morons without even addressing, much less making the case for, his opponent is worthless emotional drivel. Obviously one can never know EXACTLY FOR SURE how someone who was not elected would have governed, that doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. I would take Bush, with his flaws, over Kerry any day.

robertknyc wrote:




LOL - worthless emotional drivel.
robertknyc
13 years ago
Nice try, but hardly. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Bush, anyone who's not a Kool-Aid drinker or communist knows that. Any opposing candidate that runs in the tradition of the America we have known is vastly preferable. But, feel free to make the case for Obama over Romney.
teedubbya
13 years ago

Nice try, but hardly. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Bush, anyone who's not a Kool-Aid drinker or communist knows that. Any opposing candidate that runs in the tradition of the America we have known is vastly preferable. But, feel free to make the case for Obama over Romney.

robertknyc wrote:





It wasn't a nice try, you just apply different standards based on your blinders. I'm voting for Romney, not sure where you get that I am making a case for Obama. Maybe you are just getting emotional and throwing things out there.

They are both failures. You just drank some Bush kool-aid. Bush was awful first term and it continued into the second. Obama is equally as bad (although he didn't start any fresh wars just didn't end one).

All you need to know about Romney is he isn't Obama. But with Bush you need to take a really close look at Kerry.

We are all biased, it's just easier for some to accept, which I do not expect you to.
robertknyc
13 years ago
What you are obviously blind to is the fact that the economy during the 2004 election was pretty good, unemployment was about 5.5%, etc. It is not "moronic" to vote to reelect a president when things are going fairly well by that key measure, certainly unless you can make a clear case why his challenger would be significantly better (which you didn't). Now, we have the opposite situation: the economy sucks and there is no plan being offered to make it better. There are plenty of other bad things Obama is doing that could be noted, but the point is that when you have someone at the helm who is presiding over a terrible economic situation and is clueless how to fix it it's time to make a change...unless Romney, in this case, is just a total incompetent which he is clearly not.

I didn't say you were making a case for Obama, just that unless you are then you agree with me that Obama is a disaster. So, what we disagree on is why voting to reelect Bush was moronic given the awful John Kerry he was running against.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
No, IMHO, the economy under Bush was an abject disaster to most unless you were a Defense contractor. And then there's the matter of oil money that was supposed to pay for the war, our borders were left porous, yada yada yada... I've been through the litany of lies and incompetence often enough.

Bush jr. almost singlehandedly handed the Presidential & Congressional reins to the Democrats after his HORRIBLE 8 year performance. That's how bad he was & I had been a longstanding stalwart Republican water carrier since Nixon. Ole dubya cured me of that!! I held my nose & voted for the viable alternative- Kerry.

I'm with TW 100%. You're no better than the kneejerk Obama supporters.

The important thing is to kick Obama out. For me that means dragging my ass out & voting for a less than perfect candidate- Mitt Romney. If you're not voting for Romney, you'll be rewarding a proven failure with a second term.
robertknyc
13 years ago
Okay Bloody, make the case for John Kerry then.
teedubbya
13 years ago

What you are obviously blind to is the fact that the economy during the 2004 election was pretty good, unemployment was about 5.5%, etc. It is not "moronic" to vote to reelect a president when things are going fairly well by that key measure, certainly unless you can make a clear case why his challenger would be significantly better (which you didn't). Now, we have the opposite situation: the economy sucks and there is no plan being offered to make it better. There are plenty of other bad things Obama is doing that could be noted, but the point is that when you have someone at the helm who is presiding over a terrible economic situation and is clueless how to fix it it's time to make a change...unless Romney, in this case, is just a total incompetent which he is clearly not.

I didn't say you were making a case for Obama, just that unless you are then you agree with me that Obama is a disaster. So, what we disagree on is why voting to reelect Bush was moronic given the awful John Kerry he was running against.[/quote]

[quote=robertknyc]Nice try, but hardly. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Bush, anyone who's not a Kool-Aid drinker or communist knows that. Any opposing candidate that runs in the tradition of the America we have known is vastly preferable. But, feel free to make the case for Obama over Romney.

robertknyc wrote:





Nope. Bush was terrible. I kept hearing that we needed to give him a chance to let him fix his disasters. And to be against him getting a second term meant you were a liberal.


You are simply not consistent, and that is ok. you are partisan. why is that such an awful thing to admit. i used to be. bush cured me of that.

it is the same situation in reverse, you just can't see it. I won't make the case for Kerry anymore than I will/can for Romney. Both are weak candidates to me. The Primaries showed us that. What I can make the case for is how awful Bush was and how awful Obama is.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

Okay Bloody, make the case for John Kerry then.

robertknyc wrote:




You're an argumentative cuss, aintcha? It's been about 8 years... lol

Let me put it to you this way, I don't remember enough SIZABLE differences between the 2 candidates- not enough to make me want to reward a proven lunkhead who sported an "R" next to his name anyway.

I know that Kerry was a privileged man who at least served in Vietnam even if he used it as film promo for his political future, as opposed to another privileged individual who enjoyed bravely posing in a flight suit.
teedubbya
13 years ago
I thought Bush was the worst prez in my lifetime. I'd call it about equal with Obama. My guess is you didn't like Obama from day 1.

I voted for Bush and wanted him to do well. i through a party to celebrate the court case. he just failed miserably in his first term and yes Kery sucked ass too.

We have the same thing here. Obama failed miserably and Romney sucks ass too.

I just beleive if you put the same guy back in you get the same result. Maybe you get a pleasant suprise if you replace them even with a seemingly equal turd.

But I'm cool with the when I do it its smart but when you do it its stupid thing. Its a win-win!
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