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robertknyc
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13 years ago

#141

Okay, so basically TW's position is, if you consider a president to be bad he should be voted out of office without ever considering if the opponent is worse, and if you don't do that you are a moron. I'm capable of a little more analysis and judgment than that.

Bloody, I'm not arguing that Bush was fantastic or the like, that's not my point. I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11. Therefore it can hardly be argued that voting to reelect a president like that is moronic. Beat up on Bush all you want, but unless someone makes a good case that John Kerry would have made a better president, then calling someone a moron for voting for Bush is just an expression of your hatred, or whatever, for Bush, nothing more.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#142

robertknyc wrote:

LOL

Yet our conversation started with this

About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.

robertknyc wrote:

You are applying that logic this time (against obama.....read...all you need to know about romney is he is not Obama) but not when it is your bucket of kool aid in the WH.

you are something else. I parroted you (purposely) and you can't see it.

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teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#143

Bloody, I'm not arguing that Bush was fantastic or the like, that's not my point. I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11. Therefore it can hardly be argued that voting to reelect a president like that is moronic. Beat up on Bush all you want, but unless someone makes a good case that John Kerry would have made a better president, then calling someone a moron for voting for Bush is just an expression of your hatred, or whatever, for Bush, nothing more.

robertknyc wrote:

He had the worst terrorist attack on us soil during his admin (remember Obama can't blame things on bush (which I agree that he shouldnt). He ran the economy into the ground. he started a war in iraq under false pretences etc...... who is drinking kool-aid?

Clinton recession Bush recovery? really?

my god.

Both suck ass.

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#144

robertknyc wrote:

I think that recessions are part of a cyclical pattern regardless of whomever's in, Robert. Some Presidents are better than others in prolonging or cutting them short however. And if I remember correctly Bush DID inherit the rumblings of a recession from slick willy. Having said that, business prospered under Clinton & the Republican congress. You'll just have to take my word on that as a front line soldier in the trenches who had daily dealings with assorted clientele & many non-Defense related suppliers. This changed abruptly after 9/11 & got progressively worse. Mr. Bush ALWAYS had the big money interests foremost in mind, rebuilt foreign economies, & then passed horribly wasteful (and expensive) senior care legislation. Just like Obama he had no clue what he was doing.

HockeyDad
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13 years ago

#145

Obama is equally as bad (although he didn't start any fresh wars just didn't end one).

teedubbya wrote:

Factcheck: New war - Libya. (although he was just following France and the UK's lead)

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#146

Factcheck: New war - Libya. (although he was just following France and the UK's lead)

HockeyDad wrote:

you are correct. they have one more thing in common. although I think they had total UN support and didn't claim the rest of the world was wrong.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#147

No, IMHO, the economy under Bush was an abject disaster to most unless you were a Defense contractor.

bloody spaniard wrote:

Factcheck: It wasn't too bad for energy, banking & finance, and medical/big pharma either.

(Weird......they're all still under the Obama Cone of Protection as well)

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#148

Factcheck: It wasn't too bad for energy, banking & finance, and medical/big pharma either.
(Weird......they're all still under the Obama Cone of Protection as well)

HockeyDad wrote:

good point

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#149

I do think Clinton inherited an economic swing from the actions taken by daddy bush during a recession. I've never given Clinton much credit for the economic boom.... but I didn't see GWB doing **** for the economy. He owns TARP for godsake.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#150

Factcheck: It wasn't too bad for energy, banking & finance, and medical/big pharma either.

(Weird......they're all still under the Obama Cone of Protection as well)

HockeyDad wrote:

Obama IS Bush. that is the point.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#151

Obama IS Bush. that is the point.

teedubbya wrote:

....and so is Romney!

Scoreboard.....globalists.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#152

....and so is Romney!

Scoreboard.....globalists.

HockeyDad wrote:

Sadly that could be true.

But all you need to know about Romney is he is not Obama.

Edited because not even it is logical in the context of things

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HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#153

Kerry was also a globalist. See the pattern?!

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#154

teedubbya wrote:

I thought he was an affable galoot who mispronunciated but after a while the act got old...
...and I used to defend his lousy business track record. Little did I know that we were handing a proven fool a blank check to spend at will...

Romney may be a globalist but I think that he'll at least make a viable attempt to help the American businessman.
I know what Obama's capable of- NOTHING.

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robertknyc
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#155

LOL

Yet our conversation started with this

You are applying that logic this time (against obama.....read...all you need to know about romney is he is not Obama) but not when it is your bucket of kool aid in the WH.

you are something else. I parroted you (purposely) and you can't see it.

teedubbya wrote:

Dude, I am not missing what you are trying to say...the difference is that I CAN make the case for Romney over Obama. If I need to I will, and it's not even close. Calling people who voted for Bush in 2004 morons is just an emotional outburst unless you can tell us why Kerry was the clearly better choice over Bush.

As a conservative I don't defend Bush across the board. But obviously you have a dislike for Bush personally apparently when you say he ran the economy into the ground. The economy was good for most of his term after the recession he interited ended --we had 4.4% unemployment as late as 2007-- and the cause of the downturn was not caused primarily by his policies but a collapse of the housing bubble (a whole other complicated topic) and the bad bets Wall St. had placed. Could there have been more regulation? Yes. Did Bush overturn lots of Clinton regs? No.

And the whole war on false pretenses thing... So you are saying they falsified intelligence and bamboozled all the congressmen, senators and allies? Good luck proving that charge. And to what end would he do that anyway?

So, so much for your charge that I am drinking Kool-Aid. Bush spent way too much, and because of that he gave an opening for Democrats to win the elections and turn this country far to the left...a sad legacy.

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teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#156

All you needed to know about Kerry is he wasn't bush.... or was he....

who's on first?

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#157

About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.

robertknyc wrote:

LMAO - the sad part is I agree with you

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