Buckwheat
13 years ago
WTF???

Stupid is as stupid does. And this is a pretty f-n stupid thing to say let alone believe.
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TMCTLT
13 years ago

WTF???

Stupid is as stupid does. And this is a pretty f-n stupid thing to say let alone believe.
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Buckwheat wrote:




+1
victor809
13 years ago
This is actually really funny from an atheist standpoint.

I mean... you can't prove she isn't right.
Hell, she isn't even without precedent. There are plenty of white-power organizations which cite god as their reason for whatever racist positions they are holding. There is little difference, except in this case she's actually part of the victim group.

Hell... I'd be willing to bet (I'm sure as hell not doing the necssary google searches on my work computer) that there's a bible-college out there somewhere where a professor has claimed god likes whites better than blacks. The only reason this is news is because she's black, and everyone is trying to get reaction the the zimmerman thing.
TMCTLT
13 years ago

This is actually really funny from an atheist standpoint.

I mean... you can't prove she isn't right.
Hell, she isn't even without precedent. There are plenty of white-power organizations which cite god as their reason for whatever racist positions they are holding. There is little difference, except in this case she's actually part of the victim group.

Hell... I'd be willing to bet (I'm sure as hell not doing the necssary google searches on my work computer) that there's a bible-college out there somewhere where a professor has claimed god likes whites better than blacks. The only reason this is news is because she's black, and everyone is trying to get reaction the the zimmerman thing.

victor809 wrote:




Claiming to be an Athiest only provides you with an easy out and non committal lifestyle....pfffft
Buckwheat
13 years ago
"I mean... you can't prove she isn't right. " - Don't have to.
She opens her mouth and stupid just falls out removing all doubt that she is a fool.
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victor809
13 years ago

Claiming to be an Athiest only provides you with an easy out and non committal lifestyle....pfffft

TMCTLT wrote:



Huh?
Why would I be looking to have it "provide" me with anything? Do you look to your religion to provide you with stuff? Is there a free car, or something I'm missing?
victor809
13 years ago

"I mean... you can't prove she isn't right. " - Don't have to.
She opens her mouth and stupid just falls out removing all doubt that she is a fool.
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Buckwheat wrote:



Oh, I am not trying to suggest you have to prove she isn't right.

I just think it's funny. 🙂

It's like if some religious professor started claiming god didn't like brussel sprouts, and cited some random bible passages, and referenced their bad smell or something... then a bunch of people on a cigar forum had a problem with it or something....

It's funny, you'll just have to trust me on this.
DadZilla3
13 years ago

This is actually really funny from an atheist standpoint.

I mean... you can't prove she isn't right.
Hell, she isn't even without precedent. There are plenty of white-power organizations which cite god as their reason for whatever racist positions they are holding. There is little difference, except in this case she's actually part of the victim group.

Hell... I'd be willing to bet (I'm sure as hell not doing the necssary google searches on my work computer) that there's a bible-college out there somewhere where a professor has claimed god likes whites better than blacks. The only reason this is news is because she's black, and everyone is trying to get reaction the the zimmerman thing.

victor809 wrote:


Would there be a Hell in the atheist universe? A real Hell, not just someplace on Earth like Detroit, I mean. 🤔
HockeyDad
13 years ago
I loke forward to President Obama healing this new racial divide between blacks and hispanics. Perhaps a beer and tequilla summit.

We need to get back to focusing on a different color...green...as in more green energy funding.
DrafterX
13 years ago
Where's my new gubment Volt..??? 😠
DadZilla3
13 years ago

Where's my new gubment Volt..??? 😠

DrafterX wrote:


The wealthy aren't paying their fair share, otherwise we'd all have one by now.
DrafterX
13 years ago

The wealthy aren't paying their fair share, otherwise we'd all have one by now.

DadZilla3 wrote:




does God know about this..?? 😕
Buckwheat
13 years ago

I loke forward to President Obama healing this new racial divide between blacks and hispanics. Perhaps a beer and tequilla summit.

We need to get back to focusing on a different color...green...as in more Money in our pockets.

HockeyDad wrote:



I fixed it for you!! You're welcome. 🇨🇮
TMCTLT
13 years ago

Huh?
Why would I be looking to have it "provide" me with anything? Do you look to your religion to provide you with stuff? Is there a free car, or something I'm missing?

victor809 wrote:




Well, YES.....I look for it to provide me with the FAITH that there's something greater than me and you. I know....I know....there's nuttin bigger / greater than YOU, and YES there's ALOT your missing but we won't go into that 🌫
Brewha
13 years ago

Claiming to be an Athiest only provides you with an easy out and non committal lifestyle....pfffft

TMCTLT wrote:


Actually, Sociologists have long understood that religious believes exist in all cultures to provide relief from the emotional burden of mortality, among other reasons. Claiming an atheist conviction would be to embrace mortality without a 'death defying' belief and to confront life on those terms.
This seems neither non committal or particularly easy - as compared to singing Kumbaya and believing to live forever.
Brewha
13 years ago

Would there be a Hell in the atheist universe? A real Hell, not just someplace on Earth like Detroit, I mean. :-k

DadZilla3 wrote:


Dude, have you BEEN to Detroit???


I recon there is a hell in the atheist universe, but do you really need it to be worse than Detroit?
DadZilla3
13 years ago

Dude, have BEEN to Detroit???


I recon there is a hell in the atheist universe, but do you really need it to be worse than Detroit?

Brewha wrote:



I've lived there for awhile years ago, returned there on assignments now and then, and visit relatives there regularly. So yep, I've been there.

If Hell is all about eternal damnation, torment, and punishment then Detroit would be a logical comparison for an atheist Hell.

Maybe we could use Flint as Purgatory, sort of a Hell Lite.
wheelrite
13 years ago

Actually, Sociologists have long understood that religious believes exist in all cultures to provide relief from the emotional burden of mortality, among other reasons. Claiming an atheist conviction would be to embrace mortality without a 'death defying' belief and to confront life on those terms.
This seems neither non committal or particularly easy - as compared to singing Kumbaya and believing to live forever.

Brewha wrote:



really ?

read Einstein

want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.
2.Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.
3.My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.
4.The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.
5.Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.
6.The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.
7.There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance.
8.The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
9.The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is the source of all true art and science.
10.We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.
11.Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.
12.When the solution is simple, God is answering.
13.God does not play dice with the universe.
14.God is subtle but he is not malicious.
15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
16.Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.
17.The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow creatures as meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.
18.Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.
19.Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.
20.The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books—-a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.
21.The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.
22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism.
23.The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men.
24.The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.
25.True religion is real living; living with all one’s soul, with all one’s goodness and righteousness.
26.Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in the social life of man.

I suppose you are smarter than Albert,,

wheel,
Brewha
13 years ago
Albert was a brilliant Physicist and a religious man - not a Sociologist you dolt.

Ever read Ernest Becker?
Brewha
13 years ago

I've lived there for awhile years ago, returned there on assignments now and then, and visit relatives there regularly. So yep, I've been there.

If Hell is all about eternal damnation, torment, and punishment then Detroit would be a logical comparison for an atheist Hell.

Maybe we could use Flint as Purgatory, sort of a Hell Lite.

DadZilla3 wrote:


I thought the Catholics got rid of Purgatory. Too many administrative costs or something . . . .
Maybe it's Limbo I'm thinking of.

Wheel - you prolly know about this one. It's Catholicism not science . . . .
( sorry bud, I couldn't resist )

I was in Peoria last November. I remember feeling a sence of damnation and eternal suffering. Salvation came from the unlikely source of AA leaving on time (a miracle?). I felt imbued with blessings from above when the drink cart came by. And some would say there is no God . . . . .
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