bloody spaniard
13 years ago
^ Thank you for you service to our country and to this thread, TW.😢
teedubbya
13 years ago
you are welcome, and your apology is accepted
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Shame we don't have a million plus more in the Government like you. Oh wait, we do.


🇨🇮
teedubbya
13 years ago
nah we should outsorce the work and just send the money directly to the individuals. much better that way (and very different)
teedubbya
13 years ago
this should make great fodder

Obama says "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," in his first live comments on the court case.
DrafterX
13 years ago

this should make great fodder

Obama says "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," in his first live comments on the court case.

teedubbya wrote:




Trayvon was eligible for foreign student aid..?? 😕
HockeyDad
13 years ago
Obama got high and beat up Hispanics 35 years ago!?
ZRX1200
13 years ago
We need affirmative action self defense.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Obama got high and beat up Hispanics 35 years ago!?

HockeyDad wrote:






CHOOM GANG





OUTRAGE!!!!
DrafterX
13 years ago
Obama was speaking stupidly... 😟
DrafterX
13 years ago

this should make great fodder

Obama says "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," in his first live comments on the court case.

teedubbya wrote:




I still can't figure out what the hell he meant by that.... 🤔 🤔
HockeyDad
13 years ago

I still can't figure out what the hell he meant by that.... 🤔 🤔

DrafterX wrote:




It is confusing. Were Hispanics even allowed to have guns 35 years ago?
DrafterX
13 years ago

It is confusing. Were Hispanics even allowed to have guns 35 years ago?

HockeyDad wrote:




I don't think so... it wasn't until the Fast & Furious thing... 😟
victor809
13 years ago

Does "preconceived notion" translate to racism?

My problem with this whole thing is Seminole County did not file charges after their investigation and people outside of Florida decided to make it a national racial issue and the douchebag governor pandered and appointed a special prosecutor with orders to file charges.

Seminole County was right yet didn't the sheriff lose his job?

HockeyDad wrote:



HD. Someone was shot and killed. I think the outrage was BECAUSE the county didn't file charges. When one of the two parties is dead, you kind of need a trial (in most cases) to get both sides. Otherwise there would be a lot of cases of people mysteriously "attacking" overweight, slow cigar forum members and getting shot in the street (probably with skittles found on their body)... It's just too convenient when the other party isn't alive to tell their side of the story.

To so easily dismiss this case really makes some people think like we haven't changed much from the time when the death of a black (or hispanic, or asian) person wasn't considered a serious crime. I think that's part of what got people riled up.
DrafterX
13 years ago

I think that's part of what got people riled up.

victor809 wrote:




the people are riled up because Al & Jesse told them to be,.... 😟
HockeyDad
13 years ago

HD. Someone was shot and killed. I think the outrage was BECAUSE the county didn't file charges. When one of the two parties is dead, you kind of need a trial (in most cases) to get both sides. Otherwise there would be a lot of cases of people mysteriously "attacking" overweight, slow cigar forum members and getting shot in the street (probably with skittles found on their body)... It's just too convenient when the other party isn't alive to tell their side of the story.

To so easily dismiss this case really makes some people think like we haven't changed much from the time when the death of a black (or hispanic, or asian) person wasn't considered a serious crime. I think that's part of what got people riled up.

victor809 wrote:





People get shot and killed. District Attorneys, law enforcement agencies, and grand juries decide if charges should be filed. They know what evidence is available for both sides before they decide to have a trial. The trial itself does not produce "both sides". Mysterious surprises don't come out during trials like on Perry Mason. They did their job and were proved correct in the end.

A witness who was the one who called the police identified Trayon on top of Z punching him. An EMT testified to treating Z's injuries. This case was not easily dismissed.

The media, "civil rights activists", and others packaged a story including altered photographs and tried to push a racially motivated false story which only serves to keep the nation divided. People got riled up because they were told to get riled up and people are generally too stupid to know any better. Works every time.
teedubbya
13 years ago
It does appear there was political pressure to persue an unwinnable case
DrafterX
13 years ago

It does appear there was political pressure to persue an unwinnable case

teedubbya wrote:




there still is... 😟
ZRX1200
13 years ago
Victor did you fail civics?
victor809
13 years ago

People get shot and killed. District Attorneys, law enforcement agencies, and grand juries decide if charges should be filed. They know what evidence is available for both sides before they decide to have a trial. The trial itself does not produce "both sides". Mysterious surprises don't come out during trials like on Perry Mason. They did their job and were proved correct in the end.

A witness who was the one who called the police identified Trayon on top of Z punching him. An EMT testified to treating Z's injuries. This case was not easily dismissed.

The media, "civil rights activists", and others packaged a story including altered photographs and tried to push a racially motivated false story which only serves to keep the nation divided. People got riled up because they were told to get riled up and people are generally too stupid to know any better. Works every time.

HockeyDad wrote:



HD, I have no doubt that things got blown up out of control, but seriously... even if a witness claims trayvon was sitting on z's head, I'd suggest there should be a bit more inquiry. Lethal force against an unarmed man resulting in death is a cause for inquiry. Hell, check the wikipedia article and there are witnesses saying Z was on top of T. Some of the accounts suggest his actions were less than responsible, and ultimately led to someone being dead. That's essentially the definition of manslaughter.

Again, I'm not disputing the decision. I don't even care. I'm surprised (not really) that everyone is offended that some people wanted there to be a trial to determine innocence.
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