You say that like huffing paint is a bad thing.:-k

In all seriousness, my wife and her friends (structural civil engineers) cannot explain the almost symmetrical "telescoping" of both towers. The heat/positioning of the fires could not have been more perfect. We'll never know other than what the folks in charge want us to know. Maybe it WAS just the work of wild-eyed, booze swilling, white woman leering, fervent Saudi muslims. Who knows? I don't trust the "experts" trotted out for mass consumption any more.

bloody spaniard wrote:

I'm no engineer.

snowwolf777 wrote:

Occam’s razor v. empirical evidence. Randomness and coincidence. Defective design or construction. No one designs an office building taking in to consideration that it an airliner might strike it.

rfenst wrote:

In fact the builders boasted that the towers WHERE designed to take the impact of a plane. And not just a plane, the big jet of the day, called a 707. This is a matter of record, but no match for a razor in the right hands . . . .

Brewha wrote:

I'd heard same but we'll never really know why the towers collapsed more neatly than a planned Vegas casino demolition.
All I know is that the normally hardy conifer "tree of hope" is dying at ground zero.8-[

bloody spaniard wrote:

I don't know much about building 7 but I can see 12,000 gallons of jet fuel melting some I-beams... were those jihad pilots really that well trained that they could crash into a specific floor already painted with explosives..?? why did it take a couple hours to fall then... :-k

DrafterX wrote:

I don't know much about building 7 but I can see 12,000 gallons of jet fuel melting some I-beams... were those jihad pilots really that well trained that they could crash into a specific floor already painted with explosives..?? why did it take a couple hours to fall then... :-k

DrafterX wrote:

They maybe hit the wrong floors?

HockeyDad wrote:

I don't know much about building 7 but I can see 12,000 gallons of jet fuel melting some I-beams... were those jihad pilots really that well trained that they could crash into a specific floor already painted with explosives..?? why did it take a couple hours to fall then... :-k

DrafterX wrote:

Since jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel it may explain the couple of hours; the jihad pilots brought along thermite and fire proof suits. It took a few hours for them to go floor to floor rigging the beams to blow . . . .

Brewha wrote:

I don't have a dog in the fight, neither am I inclined to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but I do have a simple question. As an engineer, can you give some uncomplicated yet, plausible reasons for the collapse of the buildings?

Abrignac wrote:

They were built by commie Union workers in the 70s that were more concerned with a lunch break than doing quality work...

The new tower is built by Mexican immigrants like the Empire State Building was 80 yrs ago,,

It will never fall

Brewha wrote:

I am.

And even of you believe the physics defining explanations for the twin tower collapses, it takes genuine ignorance to watch the film of building 7 implode due to a 'fire' and buy it. Not stupidity, ignorance proper.

It is an interesting point of science though; the 'laws of physics' can be overwritten by the 'golden rule'.

Brewha wrote:

I knew it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wheel,

wheelrite wrote:

It is an interesting point of arrogance though. The unwillingness to do a simple Google search and read the accounts of the firefighters who went inside WTC 7, what they saw inside, what the firefighters saw outside, what their commanders saw, and why they pulled back from WTC 7 two hours before it collapsed.

But piss on all the people who were actually there, right? Those who had boots on ground during and afterwards. You saw it on the TV. And you're an engineer. Holy sh*t. Why didn't you tell everyone about this sooner?

snowwolf777 wrote:

I suppose it's a lot more fun to think of Bush and Cheney in their ninja outfits pressing the detonator buttons from a Starbucks up the street. But what the hell. We still have people who claim they have definitive evidence the moon landings were faked. Oh, and they also have scientific "proof" the Holocaust never happened, aliens pre-select our presidents, and Elvis and Tupac are still alive.

snowwolf777 wrote:

I'm with snowwolf on this. I cannot in good conscience claim that the idiot bush was able to mastermind himself into his slacks every morning, let along pull something like this off.

In all honesty, people aren't clever, smart or loyal enough to pull off conspiracies for any length of time. All it takes is one person.

victor809 wrote: