DrafterX
12 years ago
Black Friday comes early as computer glitches cause welfare benefits frenzy
Published October 14, 2013

In some Walmart stores, customers emptied shelves like it was Black Friday, while in others, no one could buy anything -- all thanks to a weekend of glitches with the nation's welfare system.

Problems involving Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards, the government payments to the poor that are administered by states with the help of private companies, plagued at least 17 states Saturday and Sunday, creating retail riots. At Louisiana stores in Springhill and Mansfield, cards registered no spending limits, prompting recipients to go on buying binges.

"It was worse than any Black Friday,” Springhill Police Chief Will Lynd told local station KSLA-TV.

Customers said shelves were picked clean in a mob scene that left employees rattled. Walmart spokeswoman Kayla Whaling told the station the company made a conscious decision to keep ringing up goods rather than to cut people off.

"We did make the decision to continue to accept EBT cards (and purchases on WIC and SNAP) during the outage so that they could get food for their families," she said.

But when order was restored and the cards began reading properly, it became clear that some customers were out to take advantage of the taxpayer-funded program. One woman had $700 worth of merchandise in her cart and an EBT card with a balance of just 49 cents.

The glitches, which were apparently triggered by a a system failure at Xerox, which handles processing for many states, left other users unable to buy anything. At a Mississippi Walmart, customers rioted and even left the store with groceries without paying after they were unable to use their food stamp cards on Saturday, according to the Clarion-Ledger.

The mini riot happened at the Walmart in Philadelphia, Miss. Shortly thereafter, managers decided to temporarily close the store.

“For the safety of our customers we did make a management decision to close the store," Whaling said of the Mississippi incident. "We’re looking into everything; looking at surveillance video and working with the local police.”

While Walmart, as the nation's biggest retailer and grocer, was affected most, the glitch hampered customers at other stores, as well. In Massachusetts, nearly 1 million EBT card users were unable to access the SNAP food program or withdraw cash, said Matthew Kitsos, spokesman with the Massachusetts Department of Transitional Assistance.

“We didn’t have answers for them, except for that there were problems in the state,” the manager of a Market Basket in Somerville, who asked that his name not be used, told the Boston Herald. “A lot of people are depending on them. They have kids; they depend on that money.”

Xerox spokeswoman Karen Arena told USA Today that some Electronic Benefits Transfer systems were experiencing connectivity issues after a routine test of a backup system at a location in the Midwest caused an outage. U.S. Department of Agriculture spokeswoman Courtney Rowe underscored that the outage was not related to the federal government shutdown. Xerox runs EBT card systems for 17 states. All were affected by the outage.

Reports surfaced around 9 a.m. Saturday that customers' EBT cards were not working in stores. Other affected states included Alabama, California, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.

Film at 11.... 🤐 🤐
BuckyB93
12 years ago
“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”

Alexis de Tocqueville
Gene363
12 years ago

Just a hint of what is coming, are you prepared?

DrafterX
12 years ago


Just a hint of what is coming, are you prepared?

Gene363 wrote:




no, I still have a job..... 😟
Gene363
12 years ago

no, I still have a job..... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



I hear you brother, but I'm thinking about the time when the store shelves go empty for more than a day or two.

DrafterX
12 years ago
I can hunt and fish... I should learn how to make beer tho... 🤔
DadZilla3
12 years ago
This was no temporary glitch.

There's been a glitch in the system for decades...instead of trying to resolve the causes of the exponentially expanding subculture of entitlement dependency, the government instead actively promotes and perpetuates it.
TMCTLT
12 years ago
I say the tax payer dollars should be replaced / replenished by Xerox ( their F Up and Wallmart for letting people run up their bills )

And Drafter, the fish n game wouldn't last long if millions were doing it also
Gene363
12 years ago

This was no temporary glitch.

There's been a glitch in the system for decades...instead of trying to resolve the causes of the exponentially expanding subculture of entitlement dependency, the government instead actively promotes and perpetuates it.

DadZilla3 wrote:




Like the FAA computers.
🐴
teedubbya
12 years ago
A country boy can survive. I regret not raisin my kids country like my dad did.
jetblasted
12 years ago


Just a hint of what is coming, are you prepared?

Gene363 wrote:



I've been saying this for over a year ... imagine the chaos if & when the economy really tanks ... just try going to the grocery store ... "if" you are able to get anything, there will be a hoard of goons & thugs ready to beat & rob you in the parking lot ... no way, jose' . . .

I read this story on another site ... they said they finally called the cops when a woman tried to pay for $700 worth of items, with only .49 cents on her EBT card ...

Totally disgusting behavior . . .
cacman
12 years ago
1/6th of America couldn't get it's free food.
jetblasted
12 years ago

This was no glitch.

DadZilla3 wrote:



Nope ... Just the Dems way, by order from The Great Divider, of pissing off their base, and blaming it on the Republicans . . .

teedubbya
12 years ago
If that's true maybe the republicans should quit putting themselves in the position to be blamed. Poor poor republicans. Never wrong but those dastardly dems keep making them look like it.
DadZilla3
12 years ago

If that's true maybe the republicans should quit putting themselves in the position to be blamed. Poor poor republicans. Never wrong but those dastardly dems keep making them look like it.

teedubbya wrote:


The issue of right versus wrong is nothing but political spin. It's really an issue of the people who work for a living versus the people who vote for a living.
tailgater
12 years ago
So when EBT glitches result in welfare fraud, we call it Black Friday?
Do Jesse and Al know about this?


DrafterX
12 years ago
DadZilla3
12 years ago

So when EBT glitches result in welfare fraud, we call it Black Friday?
Do Jesse and Al know about this?

tailgater wrote:


Speaking of Jesse and Al, where was their 24/7 media outrage when the DC cops chased down, surrounded, and shot dead an unarmed black woman right in front of her child?
victor809
12 years ago
This thread amused me.
The outrage over some @ssholes trying to get something free/discounted because of a computer glitch.

Weren't half the people on this forum trying to do the same thing to a walmart computer glitch just a week ago?

sometimes I'm absolutely astounded at the hypocrisy.
DadZilla3
12 years ago

This thread amused me.
The outrage over some @ssholes trying to get something free/discounted because of a computer glitch.

Weren't half the people on this forum trying to do the same thing to a walmart computer glitch just a week ago?

sometimes I'm absolutely astounded at the hypocrisy.

victor809 wrote:


I wasn't. But that shouldn't astound you at all...I rarely shop at WalMart.

Anybody else around here at WalMart a week ago trying to steal anything? Bueller? Bueller?

'Fess up now...
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