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Beloit Police Ask Residents To Volunteer To Have Their Homes Searched For Guns
Chief Of Police Says He Hopes Initiative Can Help Residents Begin Thinking Differently About Guns
Friday, December 5, 2014, 8:45pm
By Gilman Halsted
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Police in Beloit are launching a new effort to reduce gun violence in which they're asking city residents to volunteer to have police search their homes for guns.

Police Chief Norm Jacobs said he doesn't expect the phone to be ringing off the hook with requests for police to search their homes. He nevertheless hopes the program will encourage people to think about gun violence as an infectious disease like Ebola, and a home inspection like a vaccine to help build up the city's immune system.

"Gun violence is as serious as the Ebola virus is being represented in the media, and we should fight it using the tools that we've learned from our health providers,” he said.

Jacobs said he hopes some searches will result in the discovery of guns they didn't know were in their own homes. He said that there’s also a chance they’ll find guns linked to crimes.

“That's really what we're looking for,” he said. “Maybe we'll find a toy gun that's been altered by a youngster in the house — and we know the tragedies that can occur there on occasion.”

There have been seven gun homicides in Beloit this year. Four of the victims were teenagers or young men in their 20s — like Melisha Holloway's 20-year-old son Raymond, who was killed in April. Holloway said too many young men have given up on school.

“Pretty much all those kids and young men just need to be is educated,” said Holloway. “You have a lot of them that barely read at a fifth-grade level yet they're 25 year-old-men. But they know how to work a gun. There's something wrong with that picture."

This week, 20-year-old Jajuan Logan was sentenced to 12 years in prison for Holloway's murder.

Editor's Note: This article is part of a Wisconsin Public Radio year-long series tracking all gun-related homicides in Wisconsin.
TMCTLT
11 years ago
Yeah I'll bet they're NOT expecting the phone to ring off the hook......
This guy's a real tool bag, using Ebola and such as comparisons......head in ass syndrome 🌫
HockeyDad
11 years ago
Guns in Wisconsin prolly carry the Ebola virus but don't show the fever symptoms because of the cold hard steel.
victor809
11 years ago
The Ebola metaphor is retarded. However, I can see some use for this if there are parents who have limited control over their adult children. If they suspect their adult kid has guns they don't know about they could call the cops and ask them to search.

As a program it doesn't sound like it will actually cost any money unless someone requests it.
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11 years ago
^ good point Victor.
DrafterX
11 years ago
may as well search flash drives for nude neighbor pics while they're there.... 😟
TMCTLT
11 years ago
[quote=victor809]The Ebola metaphor is retarded. However, I can see some use for this if there are parents who have limited control over their adult children. If they suspect their adult kid has guns they don't know about they could call the cops and ask them to search.

As a program it doesn't sound like it will actually cost any money unless someone requests it. [/quote


Let me reword that for you Victoria, in the house I grew up in, if my Mother thought I was getting too big for my britches she'd simply tell me and my brothers....you'd better " get in line " or I'll put you in line and would follow that up with a " Don't think your ever too big for me to handle, if I have to stand on a chair with a ball bat....you WILL listen to me and obey my rules"...... and partly because we believed her but mostly because we " respected her " nobody ever got The Bat. Hell she'd have had NO problem if need be escorting any one of us out the door @ the business end of a shotgun ( women of that day were well versed in guns to some extent )
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11 years ago




Let me reword that for you Victoria, in the house I grew up in, if my Mother thought I was getting too big for my britches she'd simply tell me and my brothers....you'd better " get in line " or I'll put you in line and would follow that up with a " Don't think your ever too big for me to handle, if I have to stand on a chair with a ball bat....you WILL listen to me and obey my rules"...... and partly because we believed her but mostly because we " respected her " nobody ever got The Bat. Hell she'd have had NO problem if need be escorting any one of us out the door @ the business end of a shotgun ( women of that day were well versed in guns to some extent )

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What does your mother being willing to point a loaded gun at you have to do with this TCBY?

Just because you had a firm belief your mother was willing to hit you with a baseball bat or shoot you with a shotgun doesn't mean everyone's mother has expressed such sentiment. Is this a "it was good enough for me therefore it's good enough for everyone else" mentality?

Dude... if no one calls the number, no one's houses get searched and no money is spent. If some parent thinks their kid is hiding some guns and doesn't want to point a shotgun at them themselves, they could theoretically call the number. It really shouldn't be any controversy here.
TMCTLT
11 years ago

What does your mother being willing to point a loaded gun at you have to do with this TCBY?

Just because you had a firm belief your mother was willing to hit you with a baseball bat or shoot you with a shotgun doesn't mean everyone's mother has expressed such sentiment. Is this a "it was good enough for me therefore it's good enough for everyone else" mentality?

Dude... if no one calls the number, no one's houses get searched and no money is spent. If some parent thinks their kid is hiding some guns and doesn't want to point a shotgun at them themselves, they could theoretically call the number. It really shouldn't be any controversy here.

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I realize many of you Cali folks want someone else to do your " necessary " work for ya's but seriously.....these folks cannot search their own homes if they want rid of " mystery guns "
victor809
11 years ago

I realize many of you Cali folks want someone else to do your " necessary " work for ya's but seriously.....these folks cannot search their own homes if they want rid of " mystery guns "

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... dude... the police department has a vested interest in getting guns out of the hands of petty criminals and general idiots. This is a method by which cops may be able to disarm some dumb-@ss teens or young adults before they do something really stupid. Are you going to get hung up on the fact that the parents should be able to do it themselves?

Again... it's totally voluntary. If every parent takes care of their "necessary work" themselves and doesn't call, there's no cost. Or, if every parent continues to think their little angel couldn't possibly be collecting guns, again, there's no cost (maybe a few school shootings and some muggings/murders/whatever... but still no real cost).

Simply put, as a completely voluntary program with likely no overhead, I'm not seeing how it's news.
TMCTLT
11 years ago

... dude... the police department has a vested interest in getting guns out of the hands of petty criminals and general idiots. This is a method by which cops may be able to disarm some dumb-@ss teens or young adults before they do something really stupid. Are you going to get hung up on the fact that the parents should be able to do it themselves?

Again... it's totally voluntary. If every parent takes care of their "necessary work" themselves and doesn't call, there's no cost. Or, if every parent continues to think their little angel couldn't possibly be collecting guns, again, there's no cost (maybe a few school shootings and some muggings/murders/whatever... but still no real cost).

Simply put, as a completely voluntary program with likely no overhead, I'm not seeing how it's news.

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Neither ami I.....
victor809
11 years ago

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Neither ami I.....

TMCTLT wrote:




Then I think we can agree to hate Z for bringing this silliness up.
teedubbya
11 years ago
I find no merit in the program and am afraid it is insidious. Bad bad idea.

To out do them the folks in Boston will soon allow themselves to be forced to house the police in their living room.
victor809
11 years ago

I find no merit in the program and am afraid it is insidious. Bad bad idea.

To out do them the folks in Boston will soon allow themselves to be forced to house the police in their living room.

teedubbya wrote:




Doesn't Boston do that already? I thought that was what sped up the daily "morning body cavity search against terrorism"...
frankj1
11 years ago
I fled to the burbs
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11 years ago
Riiiiight.......because we haven't seen the slow boiled frog story the last 40-50 years. Unpopular ideas are always test marketed on the most friendly areas. Is that insane? If you say so......

It's for your consumption think what you will.
DrMaddVibe
11 years ago
Better have a warrant!

If not...F OFF!🐴
teedubbya
11 years ago
Zrx I agree with you. Meritless and bunk. Insidious. I was serious.
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11 years ago
I didn't think you weren't TW, I was mostly vollying with Victor.

Also I believe a MAJOR component in many government actions is conditioning.
delta1
11 years ago
Lemme get this straight. The police should be supported if they shoot and kill unarmed citizens? But not if they offer to check your home for guns that might've been used in a crime?
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