Supported? No they shouldn't be publicly LYNCHED before they get their day in court so to speak.

Does this mean you should hide the whips ,chains and restraints before the visit??🇨🇮

I think it would be pretty funny if the first person to agree to this comes home and finds out during the search the police sledge hammered the dry wall, cut up all the couch cushions and ripped the stuffing out, and dumped the contents of every drawer onto the floor.

There would be a note on the kitchen counter saying "We didn't find anything, you're safe. Thanks for your cooperation."

there would be outrage... 😟

It could be a reality tv show...........Police Punkd

Seems like an end run around illegal searches. This should be fought by all groups that wish to protect our rights. Only a fool would ask for an invasion of their privacy by a government entity. TW is correct, it is an insidious attempt that is a very slippery slope. What next?

Delta, you may be fine with voluntarily giving up constitutional rights, I am not. Also, no one is supporting the police killing unarmed citizens. The law was followed, end of story.

Victor, I understand your point, but the trade off is not acceptable.

maybe the cops should offer a free turkey or ham in return... 😟

Why is it even a program. If I call the cops and tell them there is a big bag of weed or a murder weapon in my house somewhere but I can't seem to find it I'm sure they will help me without inventing a new program.

There is more here. It's a Trojan horse (no Zrx that's not the new larger size)

then you wouldn't get a free turkey or ham.... 🤐

I'm waiting on the follow article where some stoner calls the cops because he dreamt his son had a stolen gun. He invites the popo over to search and the find his SOG grow in the closet and no gun. He ends up getting a felony weed charge.

I'm sure if you tell them not to look in the closet they will abide... 😟

Maybe the cops are bored. The town of Beloit might not have enough thugs to keep them busy. St Louis should ship them some.

Maybe they just don't have enough laws... 😟

^ I guess that's the argument for why I don't think it's a "trojan condom".

Look at the two rights we have to be worried about in this discussion: the defense against involuntary search/seizure, and the right to bear arms. Neither of these rights are being changed at all, or even enforced differently. The "slowly boiling the frog" analogy would require a very small impingement on one or the other of these rights.

Nothing has changed. Prior to this initiative, I'm sure someone could have called the cops if they suspected their kid, roommate, gimp was hoarding some illegally possessed weaponry. Now there is a specific number and the cops have announced they are willing to do this.

They aren't impinging at all on what rights to bear arms we currently have, and they aren't impinging on defense against involuntary search/seizure (they have to be invited over...) It sounds like a bad initiative, and the article does its best to make it all doomy-gloomy, but it isn't doing anything.

The whole thing could be completely and simply made irrelevant if all weaponry were legal for all people to own and keep in their house.

You can't infringe on rights that people voluntarily surrender.

I heard about some guy that surrendered and got shot.... 😟

The slowly boiling frog analogy is spot on if you consider the fact you are convincing someone to voluntarily give up their rights (like the sheep did following 911, and the boston marathon bombing, and those today saying we shouldn't disclose what the government did to the bad guys not for stategic purposes but because they prolly won't like it and might get mad thus the government should be more secretive).

If you ask the police to come find the weed in your closet, they find it, and you ask them not to arrest you can they choke you to death for resisting?

depends on whether you took the turkey or the ham... 😟

Victor, you say this is pointless (policy) but you don't see the incrimental creep?

The fact you pointed out emphasizes it IMO