victor809
10 years ago
....McCain was electable, until he started campaigning to get the far right...and added caribou barbie to his card.

I think it's funny you think, in a country with a close split on dem/reps population, one that goes back and forth constantly, that the way to win is to choose a candidate that appeals to the far right.... It's like you don't get democracy.

I think it's sad that these days the candidates aren't trying to run on issues which appeal to the majority, they are trying to yell about issues which will motivate the small percentage of the population which constitutes their "base" to vote.... This way we will never get a candidate who represents the people, but rather one who represents the small group most agitated. I suppose we brought it upon ourselves.

If you think trying to appeal to the fringes of either party is a good idea, you aren't trying to lead a country, you're trying to control it with a minority... About the only rep who hasn't been trying to get the fringe whackos riled up is Paul and kasich, both who seem like responsible candidates. Maybe Christie.... And Sanders and Hillary haven't been much better. But the loony fringe left is a little more palatable than the loony fringe right, because they aren't trying to tell you what to do in your bedroom. To think pushing far right is the solution is just silly at best, at worst it's an attempt at trying to wrest control from the majority to achieve the whim of the minority...
teddyballgame
10 years ago
This is the exact rhetoric they used to spew against Reagan. How a conservative would never get elected and the country had gone more left.

Kasich and Cristie both expanded their states medicaide roles through Obamacare and it will come back to overburden their states in a few years..but then those fools are long gone.

How did Reagan appeal to non republicans? He had millions cross from the democrat side and further more independents vote for him as well. Conservatism isn't far right wing. How is wanting to adhere to the Constitution far right wing?

The looney fringe left is moving further and further away from the constraints the Constitution puts on federal government.. and you think that is more desirable?

You are sad victor.
tonygraz
10 years ago
Did you forget Goldwater ?
teedubbya
10 years ago
Reagan was actually pretty moderate on a lot of things. He believed in expanding the tent rather than contracting it. He also believed compromise was possible without giving up his conservative values. No compromise only works in Rush's world which is entertainment not electability or governance. As a Reagan republican I can honestly say your view of him is very different than mine. He wasn't a no compromising demagogue but was a pragmatist with core values. Something you seem to find impossible and you are a reflection of many in the party. I know you don't believe it but if his ghost ran today in another body with another name he could never win the nomination. He wouldn't pass the right litmus tests. Then folks say he would be considered a rino they are not talking about going backwards and labeling him. They are talking about if he ran now. Teddy you wouldn't vote for him.
teedubbya
10 years ago
Someone willing to reach accross the aisle and give in on some things to get more than they give up is non viable at this point. Right now giving in on anything is sacrilidge. Reagan gave in on a lot of things to get a lot more. that is in no way acceptable now. Some want this but it's dysfunctional and damaging.
teedubbya
10 years ago
Someone like Palin uses Reagans name in vain. It's a fake praise because he is revered. Use his name but misattribute who he was or what he did. It works. There is proof in here.
victor809
10 years ago
Teddy... You think I'm sad because I don't want to go to either fringe? Or because I don't like a politician telling me what I can or cannot do with my d!ck?

You're part of the problem, with your whining about RINOs and forcing the candidates to play in a far religious right, govt in your bedroom game, or fall out and never make it through the primaries. You're the one who forces me to choose between my pocketbook and my d!ck at election day, and I'll always vote for my d!ck.
victor809
10 years ago
But tw! Republicans comprised the entire last 7 years! Don't you remember all the bipartisan bills and the government never shutting down ever!
teedubbya
10 years ago
The funny part is Cruz is nothing like Reagan. It's an insult to Reagans name to say so. Any true Reagan fan knows that and it's the abuse of his brand rather than anything based on reality. No current candidate is remotely close to him. The funny part is the very folks teddy disparages are close to Reagan than the ones he holds up. It's like bizzarro world.

McCain (also no Reagan) would have been better than Obammy. He chose Palin out of desperation to pacify the extremists and it failed. Palin is an entertainer who had a brief stint as a partial term governor. Keep track of who thought she was a darling of the party and you will find the folks largely responsible for national losses. She and those like her are not the winning solution.
teedubbya
10 years ago
Reagan governed.
DrafterX
10 years ago
ya, but Palin was hot.... 😟
teedubbya
10 years ago
True. True.

While Reagan was the anti establishment candidate in his party to an extent it was not the main or only thing that distinguished him like the 1 dimensional Cruz etc. Reagen was much more complex and had already shown his ability to compromise while governing. Funny thing compromise..... If you are good at it you tend to win your way more than you lose. If your not good at it you tend to reject ever compromising and always lose but can blame the other side. Reagan could horse trade and win. Cruz simply obstructs and Bolivians then blames. Cruz is nothing like Reagan.
teedubbya
10 years ago
Bolivians = bloviates just like Brazilian is a huge number.
DrafterX
10 years ago
Damn Bolivians..!! 😠
frankj1
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10 years ago
my work is done here.
DrafterX
10 years ago
A cowboy's work is never done.. 😟
teedubbya
10 years ago
Right wing does not equal conservative and vice versa.
Speyside
10 years ago
Seems to me far right wing does equal bat sh.t crazy.
banderl
10 years ago

Seems to me far right wing does equal bat sh.t crazy.

Speyside wrote:




Judging by the way that they're pandered to, that must be their base.
ZRX1200
10 years ago
Commie.

Victor, tell me where the compromise is on both sides?
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