Poll Question: Wikileaks is '.....' for democracy:
teedubbya
9 years ago
Nope. Just a felony.
teedubbya
9 years ago
I tend not to pick and choose when a felony is ok or not.

I also think illegal aliens are illegal.

Some think it's ok to pick and choose based on your opinion. I don't.

If you want to allow a law to be broken change the law.
teedubbya
9 years ago
That's also not to say I never skirt the law (like speeding) but I do so knowing I am breaking the law and will pay the price if caught.
jjanecka
9 years ago
The bottom line is that Snowden put a lot of people's lives in danger.
tailgater
9 years ago

I tend not to pick and choose when a felony is ok or not.

I also think illegal aliens are illegal.

Some think it's ok to pick and choose based on your opinion. I don't.

If you want to allow a law to be broken change the law.

teedubbya wrote:




You gotta help me on this one.
Which tone inflection should I use to somehow make this NOT sound self righteous?
I've tried Olde English Aristocrat. You know: Dear Watson, I do believe that a felonious act will remain felonious as long as the law upholds the original ideals as set forth by Her Majesty. Wink wink, nudge nudge.


I know I'm not alone when I say Bravo to you, sir.
Now let me start the slow applause, and allow you to revel in it while it builds in intensity.



CLAP





















CLAP



MACS
9 years ago
^^This, folks... is a masterful example of sarcasm that one can grow accustomed to in the Northeast.
opelmanta1900
9 years ago

The bottom line is that Snowden put a lot of people's lives in danger.

jjanecka wrote:


who?
gummy jones
9 years ago
once again, wikileaks is a vessel aside from snowden, hilary, etc. they are not mutually inclusive.

in general, there are laws protecting whistleblowers for a reason

now i understand the discrepancy when it comes to snowden

hilary's very actions jeopordized state security to benefit her own lot, much more so than the eventual shedding of light did (and by then russia, china, etc already knew what the american people did not). this mess came directly from her wrongdoing.

so in her case i say wikileaks is good
teedubbya
9 years ago
If this is protected by the whisltleblower laws then there is no issue. Usually that involves taking available info to the proper authority. If you think it covers hacking in to email then releasing publicly, I disagree but then there is nothing to fear from court.

Tail I'm not sure which inflection you should use but I find trying to remain consistent in my views when it doesn't serve what I really want helps when the table turns which it always does.

I try not to be a hypocrite as much as possible. I fail at times.

If calling a felony a felony and thinking it is wrong even when it serves me is wrong I'm ok with that.
gummy jones
9 years ago
i wasnt suggesting that whistleblower laws pertain to this specifically but that events like this are routinely criticized by one side or the other and, for that reason, laws exist to protect the party that comes forth. its always a sticky situation.

if someone selling influence and jeopardizing state security for personal and political gain is brought to light with questionable tactics (that once again were used by other countries already - the info was in our enemies hands prior to being posted on wikileaks), then i guess im okay with it.

but i have never tried to hide my opinion that hilary is the most corrupt politician to rise over decades and trick the people into claiming she is their champion.
Gene363
9 years ago

Felony

teedubbya wrote:



Felony? Check

Whistleblower? Possibly, but there are protocols that are supposed to be followed, inevitably to the whistleblower's peril, so in almost all cases the route to vindication is through the pits of hell and possibly criminal court.

Jury Nullification? Check
tailgater
9 years ago



Tail I'm not sure which inflection you should use but I find trying to remain consistent in my views when it doesn't serve what I really want helps when the table turns which it always does.

I try not to be a hypocrite as much as possible. I fail at times.

If calling a felony a felony and thinking it is wrong even when it serves me is wrong I'm ok with that.

teedubbya wrote:




So you're going with French Canadian.
I should have suspected as much.
le HockeyDad will be proud.


tailgater
9 years ago

^^This, folks... is a masterful example of sarcasm that one can grow accustomed to in the Northeast.

MACS wrote:



I prefer the term "embrace".

frankj1
9 years ago
Of course you do.
tailgater
9 years ago
I prefer a long term embrace.

MACS
9 years ago

I prefer a long term embrace.

tailgater wrote:



Ain't nobody gots time fo dat! Fo reealzzz.
TMCTLT
9 years ago

i wasnt suggesting that whistleblower laws pertain to this specifically but that events like this are routinely criticized by one side or the other and, for that reason, laws exist to protect the party that comes forth. its always a sticky situation.

if someone selling influence and jeopardizing state security for personal and political gain is brought to light with questionable tactics (that once again were used by other countries already - the info was in our enemies hands prior to being posted on wikileaks), then i guess im okay with it.

but i have never tried to hide my opinion that hilary is the most corrupt politician to rise over decades and trick the people into claiming she is their champion.

gummy jones wrote:





^^^ THIS
DrMaddVibe
9 years ago
Post #2...Meet Post #3.

How you doin'?
namadio
9 years ago
Wikileaks is bad because it gives **** birds like edward snowden and pfc bradletta manning delusions of grandeur. Dont **** agree to safe guard classified information if you dont intend to do so. There are ways to raise issues, discipline those abusing access, and solve problems outside of leaking to the media or worse wikileaks. Despite the results i cant condone cyber attacks against any us citizen, let alone a presidential candidate and her staff. Too many of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines that serve this country are my friends and colleagues. Anything diminishing their edge over our adversaries, i cannot abide.

"In God we trust, all others we monitor"
cacman
9 years ago

If this is protected by the whisltleblower laws then there is no issue. Usually that involves taking available info to the proper authority.

teedubbya wrote:


How can you turn information over to the proper authorities, when the proper authorities are involved in the felonies being exposed themselves???

That's like our asking our own gubement to investigate themselves. Why does that sound familiar? Oh that's right... that already happens. Let's ignore the crimes committed by our guberment and its officials against the American people, and instead concentrate on prosecuting those that expose the crimes. It's all Russia's and Assange's fault.

Why wait 60 or 90 days for info to be released AFTER an election? Why hide anything? Why the secrecy in an unwritten "code" that may contradict the written law? The People have a right to know as soon as the "Officials" we elected into office know. They are after all... servants of the people.
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