rfenst
7 years ago

... And I was not being sarcastic by using "gracious". Very classy of him. Probably is best for the entire nation.

frankj1 wrote:



Sadly, I agree.
DrafterX
7 years ago
He sounded disgruntled to most peoples... 😟


So, was Trump Negligent or just Careless in these alleged crimes..?? 😕
frankj1
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7 years ago

He sounded disgruntled to most peoples... 😟


So, was Trump Negligent or just Careless in these alleged crimes..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:


part one or part two?
dstieger
7 years ago
Talking point regurgitation notwithstanding, I would bet that even die hard supporters would not be surprised to learn that the Trump did or said things that someone could interpret as 'obstruction'
DrafterX
7 years ago
Prolly.. but where's da beef..?? Show me a crime worthy of impeachment... Mueller's report doesn't cite one... Are investigations going to continue on hearsay..?? 😟
teedubbya
7 years ago

Prolly.. but where's da beef..?? Show me a crime worthy of impeachment... Mueller's report doesn't cite one... Are investigations going to continue on hearsay..?? 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Read the report

The part that stood out to me was when he laid out that the intent (due to policy and presumably the Constitution) was for neither his team or the Attorney General to exonerate or indite (ie the justice department rules apply to everyone in the JD which included him and the AG)..... and then the Atty Gen did, as he promised prior to getting picked. The WH has changed their talking points from Mueller cleared him to the AG cleared him.

The only person in the land that could not be charged or exonerated by the Mueller or the AG (by the Justice Department) is the POTUS thus it goes to congress. If anyone actually bothers to read the report you will get this rather than the President was cleared or there wasn't enough evidence nonsense the WH and your news sources tell you to believe. Instead the evidence is preserved and presented in a way that the will make it useful to the only body/mechanism that can proceed at the moment.
DrafterX
7 years ago
Why all the excitement now then... The reports been out for a month... Did nobody in Congress read it..?? 😕
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7 years ago
for clarity.
Something every American should want...I am paraphrasing.
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7 years ago
who's excited?
DrafterX
7 years ago
( just trying to stir things up a bit... Just play along.. )
dstieger
7 years ago

who's excited?

frankj1 wrote:


Not I.....but I didn't listen to Mueller, nor have I read his report

But, I spent only a few minutes in front of a TV tuned to CNN, and I thought that everyone else in the country must be fairly excited.

And one of the news women on NPR this morning (Rachel Martin, maybe?) gave a truly sad impression of Steve Inskeep while interviewing someone from the White House comm team....I was embarrassed for her...but the dude was great at putting forth Admin talking points with impeccable timing. He may not have swayed anyone, but he's pretty good at his job
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7 years ago

( just trying to stir things up a bit... Just play along.. )

DrafterX wrote:


cool!
teedubbya
7 years ago
Folks in here seem to think marketing doesn't work. It does.

We have been hearing no collusion no obstruction well before the report was released. It was intentional and smart. Credit where credit is due. That is not at all what the report says but there are still folks running with that because that is what they were told, and they want to believe it. Ironically many of those folks chastise others for believing what the lamestream media says while falling in to the same trap. You must remember the only trustworthy person is Trump and everyone else is lying. Some probably still believe he has proof Obama wasn't born here like he said he did.

Once the report was out there the messaging was already firmly in place. Intentionally. And the wait was intentional. They needed their message to take hold. The AG and the WH. Even I went with it for awhile before I read the actual report. It would be nice to be able to believe what the AG or Prez says. I didn't beleive the AG would be so absurd and blatantly misrepresent things. I still had faith.

The noise during the entire investigation was coming from Trump not Mueller. And it was intentional. And it worked. Angry democrats, evil lovers, treason, mad about golf dues, everyone (this has been used numerous times) wanted a job in the administration and were turned down, spying blah blah blah. The shear volume of this crap is unreal, yet a certain number of people are willing to buy it.

All that really happened yesterday is a reinforcement of that is not what the report says. Many have been saying that previously only to be drowned out by the marketing campaign by the WH and AG.

And yes drafter.... it appears as if no Republicans in congress read the report.
izonfire
7 years ago

who's excited?

frankj1 wrote:



I'm very excited. Just for a different reason.
DrafterX
7 years ago
Still, Mueller never got abducted... 🤐
teedubbya
7 years ago
^ you misread things. Yes he got obstructed but now he measures stuff before he eats it.
dstieger
7 years ago
victor809
7 years ago

Talking point regurgitation notwithstanding, I would bet that even die hard supporters would not be surprised to learn that the Trump did or said things that someone could interpret as 'obstruction'

dstieger wrote:



For them to be surprised, they would have to believe it.

Die hard trumpers could be shown a video of trump literally saying "I'm going to obstruct this investigation because I'm guilty of all the crimes but don't want anyone to find out".... and they will find a way to justify it.

(hell, look at what they do now... "he can't obstruct an investigation if there's no crime committed!" (this is false))
teedubbya
7 years ago

=d> =d>

dstieger wrote:




Great. Now I have the clap.
DrafterX
7 years ago
So, if the mueller takes the stand in front of congress and gets asked about the false dosiers what do you think he'll say..?? 🤔
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