I was shocked when I unwrapped this. Plume fell off like powdered sugar. Look at all that solidified oily goodness that fell onto the coffin! This pic doesn't do it justice, when I unwrapped it and handled it, it rained fine powder all over the place and stuck to my fingers.

I can also report that I smoked the 2005 Liberty coffin C3 sent me and there it was again. Plume, not as much as the 2008 but, I'm not complaining one bit, it's just an observation. It was delicious. I got a little choked up when I opened the 2005 and there it was again.... I like to think of my humidor's as a unicorn boneyard. They come here to die!

If we ever cross paths Ken, say while camping, just kneel before me so I can knight you with my sword. Then I will shout from the mountain top "Stand and be Recognized! Arise Sir Kenneth, Lord of Liberty! You are reborn!"

Or I could just shake your hand, say "Thanks!" and ply you with all the alcohol you can handle and then some! =d>

Either way, I know I'll be having a good time! 👍 👍

beautiful...


my stash of aged Camacho Liberties have not been similarly blessed...

Gorgeous. Nice hit Cereal Man!

Ken is a great guy

C3S =d>

oh brother

Splotchy plume. There's a first...

Wrong bait for this pond.

If you say so...

LMAO.

Plume doesn't form with patches of uneven density like that and it wouldn't form the same across both capa leaves because the sugar and oil contents aren't the same. Painted coffins are notorious for trapping too much moisture and causing mold issues, but you just keep on believing whatever you want.

But...but.....TG.....even the coffin has plume!!!


That's mold, CB. Wipe it off....check the foot....looks and smell....if good smoke it....if not, do NOT put it back in the humi

the plume spillith over

Mold spores........bummer........do what dstieger says....

thanks for the tip, TG...I'm gonna have to check out all of the coffins in my end table humidor...

While you're at it, go ahead and remove all AF footer ribbons, too....those are worse than most coffins, imo

Going to have to side with my brother from another mother on this one. Sorry to say it's mold. I accidentally molded up a couple inexpensive sticks and just recently discovered it last week, deep in a 500 count humi. while updating water sources. I've made adjustments, but will watch to see if I got the ventilation in the packed humi corrected (only the cigars closest to a moisture source were affected, so I dialed the source back as well).

I had some Cu-Avana maduros plume on me a while back. They had a fine coating of what looked like confectioner's sugar, with an even coating all over them. Even tasted a bit sweet when I put the clipped head in my mouth to smoke it. Pretty impressive taste for a cheapo cigar that didn't exactly explode with flavor to begin with.

Plume that I have seen looks like a very fine, almost hard to see covering (especially on lighter wrappers) that is fairly uniform. My first thought when I saw this was "mold". Then again, I don't see very well, so I could easily be wrong.

Plume? Almost like a dusting of little salt crystals as I remember. Look with a magnifying glass. Color, Strands or hairlike bristles is a bad sign.

That sure was a nice gift from Ken! 🇨🇮

Regardless, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

🇨🇮

very nice gift either way

glad it passed the taste test

Let's get this one out of the way first. You do understand that to unwrap it, then inspect it, it was in MY HANDS. My very first thought was mold. So I checked it thoroughly. Guess what that did to the distribution. You watch to many cop shows.

White cigar mold is STICKY. Like a cob web. To get that much powder off of it, if it was mold, that cigar would have to have been totally corrupted from the inside out and I would have classified it as a friggin feathery mushroom at that point.


I'm gonna say this one last time. I'm going to be very clear.

I know the difference between mold and plume. I JUST posted something a week or so ago because I was sent a few moldy newb sticks. The difference between the two is unmistakable. Here's what all you backseat drivers just did by looking at one crappy pic and making assumptions.

C3 is now going through his entire collection and apologizing to me because he didn't check inside the coffins before he sent a roak out of nowhere, because of a random comment I made, and now feels bad. Bravo.

He sent me multiple coffins. 2005, 2008, and I think a 2006 or 2015. The 2005 and 2008, plume. The 2006 and 2015? Nothing, just a normal cigar.

All stored together in a box I use for putting smokes to bed for years in. Every other box of smokes stored with these coffins. NOTHING. On the rack above these boxes. Loose smokes, most with no cello on them. NOTHING. The box itself. Rock steady at 63%/65F. These coffins have been in there long enough to ruin the entire box.

Don't give me any crap about, "Well the low humidity must have stopped the spread." It doesn't work like that. It wouldn't stop spreading instantly. Raise your hand if you've read ANY botany books this year. I've read two at least.

Who the hell can I bomb now. "Hey everyone, wanna risk your collections by getting a box in the mail from me now that the "Experts" have sounded the mold alarm. Especially considering I just made a post saying I got some noob sticks recently that came up moldy. I didn't need a friggin microscope to spot it either. It was in a box I keep just for noob sticks, that's already been sanded twice, wiped down with Isopropyl alcohol a few times with friggin Q-tips so I could make sure I got every nook and cranny., and is now sitting at 80% humidity to see if I got it all. I know what I'm doing. Period.

The Fuente's will be here next week. The advert mentioned them bringing some rare Opus X along for the ride. They were the last piece of a hit I've been planning for months. That part of the plan is shot. I can't risk sending anything to anyone now for fear of a pure coincidence screwing me over for good.

Thanks, great job.

Just so it's crystal clear, here's the reason this really pissed me off.

A man I've never met or had a serious conversation with went out of his way and into his pocket to do me a kindness and is now telling me sorry? That is so wrong on so many levels.

1 PM, "Hey, that looks like mold to me not plume." Me "Nah, trust me it's not. I handled the smoke, my phone takes crap pics and when I resize the photo for this site it drops the quality even more. Thanks for the concern though I really appreciate it. " Done.

How's that for LMAO?