dstieger
6 years ago
I acknowledge the possibility.....but am far from convinced.



White cigar mold is STICKY. Like a cob web. To get that much powder off of it, if it was mold, that cigar would have to have been totally corrupted from the inside out and I would have classified it as a friggin feathery mushroom at that point.

CelticBomber wrote:



For all your indignant assurance, you kind of step in it right from the get-go. Not sure what your botany books said, but the statement above is absolutely untrue and throws the rest of your explanation into doubt. Mold can develop on the wrapper...OR at the foot....OR both...and be totally unrelated to each other and certainly unrelated to any 'inside out corruption'.

You posted the picture. And you probably should realize that 96.2+% of all pics on the interwebs with claims of plume are actually of mold.

So, post up a macro pic so we can all see that there are no mold 'fibers' and only plume 'crystals'.....if you want every backseat botanist to not offer experienced comment about your mold
CelticBomber
6 years ago
How about I post my middle finger and you sit on. I don't owe you ANY explanations.
izonfire
6 years ago
Well, I'm glad we're done with the Chaos crap and back to our civil discourse...
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BTW - very considerate gift C3S!
Becca6
6 years ago
You are all wrong. That is ****. That cigar has been jizzed upon.
Becca6
6 years ago
You are all wrong. That is ****. That cigar has been jizzed upon.
USNGunner
6 years ago

You are all wrong. That is ****. That cigar has been jizzed upon.

Becca6 wrote:




I don't think that was a Uranus Utopia shipment. I'd say you're off track there Becky. [frypan]
izonfire
6 years ago

I don't think that was a Uranus Utopia shipment. I'd say you're off track there Becky. [frypan]

USNGunner wrote:



What's a Uranus Utopia shipment without jizz?
KingoftheCove
6 years ago
IDGAF either way..............hope it’s plume.
That said....
I’ve seen plume a few times..........never ever looked like that, even after “handling”.
I’ve seen mold more than a few times, and it always looks exactly like that.

So what is all that chit on the coffin anyways?
Plume that fell off the cigar while you were handling it?
OK...
USNGunner
6 years ago

What's a Uranus Utopia shipment without jizz?

izonfire wrote:



Dry boxed.
izonfire
6 years ago

So what is all that chit on the coffin anyways?

KingoftheCove wrote:



He snorted a line of booger sugar off the top,
then did a schitty job of wiping the rest off.

He was in a hurry. Wife was at the door...
izonfire
6 years ago

Dry boxed.

USNGunner wrote:



Well, I guess so.
Sad box...
6 years ago
On the top of the coffin is the seal that holds it closed. Not mold or a booger. 😳

Should have checked it before I sent it. 😣

Glad you still enjoyed it!
gummy jones
6 years ago

On the top of the coffin is the seal that holds it closed. Not mold or a booger. 😳

Should have checked it before I sent it. 😣

Glad you still enjoyed it!

Cereal City Cigar Smoker wrote:



one year I had an entire order of anejos that had mold under the cedar. had I not decided to smoke one Rott I wouldn't have found out for 2+ years.

im in the camp that most mold is harmless and is literally around us at all times.

when its proliferates significantly I just take it as a good sign that the sticks need tighter rh/temp maintenance
mjrburn
6 years ago
I have had the good fortune of trading with Ken a number of times and have probably received over a hundred cigars from him, many of them well over 10 years old. I have never received anything that made me fear mold or mildew. Of these, two Liberty 08's, a Liga UF13 and a CAO MX2 o.r. that were all covered in beautiful plume and smoked like a dream!...c3s storage is stable. 🌫

I had the same experience as Celtic and was unable to get a picture to do these cigars justice. The Liberty 08 is tissue wrapped inside of a coffin and it was impossible to unwrap them without wrecking the plume that was on them.

Just glad Celtic and I got to experience those beauties, thanks to c3s generosity. =d>
Thunder.Gerbil
6 years ago

Let's get this one out of the way first. You do understand that to unwrap it, then inspect it, it was in MY HANDS. My very first thought was mold. So I checked it thoroughly. Guess what that did to the distribution. You watch to many cop shows.

White cigar mold is STICKY. Like a cob web. To get that much powder off of it, if it was mold, that cigar would have to have been totally corrupted from the inside out and I would have classified it as a friggin feathery mushroom at that point.


I'm gonna say this one last time. I'm going to be very clear.

I know the difference between mold and plume. I JUST posted something a week or so ago because I was sent a few moldy newb sticks. The difference between the two is unmistakable. Here's what all you backseat drivers just did by looking at one crappy pic and making assumptions.

C3 is now going through his entire collection and apologizing to me because he didn't check inside the coffins before he sent a roak out of nowhere, because of a random comment I made, and now feels bad. Bravo.

He sent me multiple coffins. 2005, 2008, and I think a 2006 or 2015. The 2005 and 2008, plume. The 2006 and 2015? Nothing, just a normal cigar.

All stored together in a box I use for putting smokes to bed for years in. Every other box of smokes stored with these coffins. NOTHING. On the rack above these boxes. Loose smokes, most with no cello on them. NOTHING. The box itself. Rock steady at 63%/65F. These coffins have been in there long enough to ruin the entire box.

Don't give me any crap about, "Well the low humidity must have stopped the spread." It doesn't work like that. It wouldn't stop spreading instantly. Raise your hand if you've read ANY botany books this year. I've read two at least.

Who the hell can I bomb now. "Hey everyone, wanna risk your collections by getting a box in the mail from me now that the "Experts" have sounded the mold alarm. Especially considering I just made a post saying I got some noob sticks recently that came up moldy. I didn't need a friggin microscope to spot it either. It was in a box I keep just for noob sticks, that's already been sanded twice, wiped down with Isopropyl alcohol a few times with friggin Q-tips so I could make sure I got every nook and cranny., and is now sitting at 80% humidity to see if I got it all. I know what I'm doing. Period.

The Fuente's will be here next week. The advert mentioned them bringing some rare Opus X along for the ride. They were the last piece of a hit I've been planning for months. That part of the plan is shot. I can't risk sending anything to anyone now for fear of a pure coincidence screwing me over for good.

Thanks, great job.

Just so it's crystal clear, here's the reason this really pissed me off.

A man I've never met or had a serious conversation with went out of his way and into his pocket to do me a kindness and is now telling me sorry? That is so wrong on so many levels.

1 PM, "Hey, that looks like mold to me not plume." Me "Nah, trust me it's not. I handled the smoke, my phone takes crap pics and when I resize the photo for this site it drops the quality even more. Thanks for the concern though I really appreciate it. " Done.

How's that for LMAO?

CelticBomber wrote:




You need a hug.

And maybe some Xanax.
Thunder.Gerbil
6 years ago

On the top of the coffin is the seal that holds it closed. Not mold or a booger. 😳

Should have checked it before I sent it. 😣

Glad you still enjoyed it!

Cereal City Cigar Smoker wrote:




Hey Ken, you've always been one of the good guys - this wasn't about you. Anyone who has been around to know you from the older days here would know that you would never knowingly send out a moldy or damaged cigar. Maybe if the OP had put your name in there properly, I would have noticed it.

Apologies to you for the trouble this caused you.
gummy jones
6 years ago
I suspect everyone wouldgladly take a bomb from c3

Looks like the dude has a serious collection!
Thunder.Gerbil
6 years ago

I suspect everyone wouldgladly take a bomb from c3

Looks like the dude has a serious collection!

gummy jones wrote:




Not if you figure that "C3" is just another one of the crop of idiot fly by noops you've never heard of who is involved in the trading board circle-jerk going on.

Ken, aka C3S, is another story.
corey sellers
6 years ago
I know Ken would not send a moldy cigar I have helped him lower his selection probably by 200 to 300 cigars or more . He is a good guy no doubt .
rfenst
6 years ago
Ken and I have done some enormous trades, sight unseen, over the years. Not once have I ever doubted the quality or condition of his smokes. His word and smokes are as "good as gold".
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