DrMaddVibe
4 years ago
ok...who had Alec on the set with the revolver?
MACS
4 years ago
Prop gun with "blanks" don't make people dead or injured.

Smells very wrong to me.
Abrignac
4 years ago
Alec can eat a bag of deeks. But, could this be a Brandon Lee type incident?
BuckyB93
4 years ago
Not just one but two people got shot with a prop gun?
MACS
4 years ago

Not just one but two people got shot with a prop gun?

BuckyB93 wrote:



Ed Zachary... one mother fugger drops dead, you gonna point it and pull the trigger again at the next one?

Anyone who knows anything about guns... this is NOT right. AT ALL.

Wrong ammo? Who the f--k is your prop guy? And WTF is live ammo doing on a shoot anyway? And how did it get in a "prop gun"? And why is your "prop gun" actually working like a real gun?

Lucy got some serious 'splainin' to do...
BuckyB93
4 years ago
Maybe it was one of those Warren Commission magic bullets that, after killing the first person, ricocheted and struck the second person.

A Brandon Lee type incident with a Warren Commission magic bullet (not one of those blender Magic Bullet thingies though, that's a bit too big to fit into a revolver)
HockeyDad
4 years ago
Stogie1020
4 years ago
Could have been a single shot. Ball ammo has been known to over penetrate...
ZRX1200
4 years ago
Pretty sure she had COVID.
DrMaddVibe
4 years ago
Maybe it was an advanced variant TDS?
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
I'm going to withhold judgment until more info comes out.

I'm unclear why a director and cinematographer were in the line of fire unless it was some POV shoot towards the camera type thing.

I'm curious whether it was multiple shots and how much time for the brain to process between them, or if it was a single that penetrated through and hit the second victim. Macs, I see your point but I'm considering the possibility of the direction being to rapid fire several shots. Believing the situation to be safe, I could see pulling the trigger a couple of times before realization hits that bodies are dropping

From what I understand, there should be so many steps and staff involved in filming gunfire, as well as procedures for both replicas and real guns with blanks, it's difficult for me to believe the actor has much choice or ability to misuse a weapon on set. There would have been many layers of serious failure if this turns out to be live ammo
Gene363
4 years ago

I'm going to withhold judgment until more info comes out.

I'm unclear why a director and cinematographer were in the line of fire unless it was some POV shoot towards the camera type thing.

I'm curious whether it was multiple shots and how much time for the brain to process between them, or if it was a single that penetrated through and hit the second victim. Macs, I see your point but I'm considering the possibility of the direction being to rapid fire several shots. Believing the situation to be safe, I could see pulling the trigger a couple of times before realization hits that bodies are dropping

From what I understand, there should be so many steps and staff involved in filming gunfire, as well as procedures for both replicas and real guns with blanks, it's difficult for me to believe the actor has much choice or ability to misuse a weapon on set. There would have been many layers of serious failure if this turns out to be live ammo

Sunoverbeach wrote:



AND... the idiot holding the firearm either ignored safety training or was too big a jackass to submit to training on firearm handling.

FWIW, blanks can be deadly at close range, especially those that use any form of wadding or a wood bullet.
KingoftheCove
4 years ago

AND... the idiot holding the firearm either ignored safety training or was too big a jackass to submit to training on firearm handling.

FWIW, blanks can be deadly at close range, especially those that use any form of wadding or a wood bullet.

Gene363 wrote:


This^^
Almost every year some idiot kills himself trying to be funny with “blanks”...
JadeRose
4 years ago
I just skimmed over this.....Alec Baldwin showed people his balls and they died?
delta1
4 years ago
before Brandon Lee, Jon Erik Hexum accidentally killed himself on a movie set with a blank prop gun...those wads in blanks can do damage at close range
Krazeehorse
4 years ago

I just skimmed over this.....Alec Baldwin showed people his balls and they died?

JadeRose wrote:


They were schweddy.
Krazeehorse
4 years ago

before Brandon Lee, Jon Erik Hexum accidentally killed himself on a movie set with a blank prop gun...those wads in blanks can do damage at close range

delta1 wrote:


Especially if it was a shotgun instead of a revolver.
rfenst
4 years ago
ABC 3:29pm
... Exactly how the incident unfolded Thursday was not clear.

Hollywood weapons expert Larry Zanoff said that when firearms are used as props in the television and movie industry only blanks — cartridges that do not hold bullets — are allowed on set.

Even so, there is a minimum safety distance of 20 feet in front of the muzzle because even with a blank, smoke and burning embers can get propelled out of the gun, he said.

“There should be nothing in front of it when filming is occurring with firearms,” Zanoff said.

The weapons should also be inspected before and after each scene, and there should be a safety briefing as part of the protocol, he added.

“We have a series of guidelines in the industry that govern the use of blank firearms and ammunition on set,” he said. “So my question is, of course, firstly, was that protocol followed?”....
Gene363
4 years ago
Not many facts out yet, but the dead and the wounded were not actors so I'd guess there was some sort of jackssery going on or the shooter was angry with someone and pointed a firearm at them with deadly results.

Prop or actual firearm, the statement that the gun, "misfired" smells to high heaven. Firearms fire when someone or something pulls the trigger. Yes, it is possible to have a firearm with a defective trigger that will go off very easily or if the weapon is dropped, but I'd bet good money you would not find one on a movie shoot or at a prop rental business.
Krazeehorse
4 years ago
As bad as I hate defending Baldwin the victims could have been standing behind/beside the camera and the scene called for him shooting toward the camera.
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