MACS
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3 years ago
Along with 25 other states. SCOTUS needs to rule on this... 2nd amendment gives us all the right, and any state having laws that say anything different are violating our right. The End.
Mr. Jones
3 years ago
Tell that to the governor of NY STATE , THE MAYOR OF NYC, THE MAYOR OF PHILADELPHIA & PITTSBURGH ( THE NO GO ZONES OF PENNSYLVANIA...)
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago
Therein is the simplistic nature the Founding Fathers has with regard to State's Rights.

Bueller...Bueller...

If we can somehow reach nationwide reciprocity there just might be hope for the Republic.
8trackdisco
3 years ago

Along with 25 other states. SCOTUS needs to rule on this... 2nd amendment gives us all the right, and any state having laws that say anything different are violating our right. The End.

MACS wrote:



Would you be for all adults 18 and old have guns? In what if any circumstances would you limit or not allow?
Gene363
3 years ago
I agree, however, I see interference in State's rights by a power-hungry parliament of whores, Congress. To be clear, I do not trust Congress. [frypan]


Oh, and the wrong forum! 🐴
8trackdisco
3 years ago

I agree, however, I see interference in State's rights by a power-hungry parliament of whores, Congress. To be clear, I do not trust Congress. [frypan]


Oh, and the wrong forum! 🐴

Gene363 wrote:



Liked that O’Rourke book.
Wrong forum? Actually, it belongs here.
It is the chitturning of the country drawing a simple 2nd Amendment concept into something political.
Whistlebritches
3 years ago
Bout damn time......what took Desantis so long
Gene363
3 years ago

Liked that O’Rourke book.
Wrong forum? Actually, it belongs here.
It is the chitturning of the country drawing a simple 2nd Amendment concept into something political.

8trackdisco wrote:



Me too, O’Rourke's was the Man.

Your point is good, it is a Right, not a political thing, however politicians and the feckless dolts that elect them, are the biggest threat to the Second Amendment.
MACS
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3 years ago

Would you be for all adults 18 and old have guns? In what if any circumstances would you limit or not allow?

8trackdisco wrote:



18 for long guns, 21 for handguns. Background checks before sales (quickly, it doesn't take but a day or 2).

Some people believe that allowing law abiding citizens to carry will result in more problems. I disagree. The criminals already do it. Now they'll be thinking twice before victimizing some people. And if excess deaths result, lets hope it's the bad guys dying.
8trackdisco
3 years ago

18 for long guns, 21 for handguns. Background checks before sales (quickly, it doesn't take but a day or 2).

Some people believe that allowing law abiding citizens to carry will result in more problems. I disagree. The criminals already do it. Now they'll be thinking twice before victimizing some people. And if excess deaths result, lets hope it's the bad guys dying.

MACS wrote:



Similar/same page so far.
Who would be disqualified on a background check?
MACS
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3 years ago

Similar/same page so far.
Who would be disqualified on a background check?

8trackdisco wrote:



Felons. Crazies. Non-citizens.

I don't think misdemeanor DV should be a permanent disqualifier, either. Those should be case by case, IMO. Too many variables.
8trackdisco
3 years ago

Felons. Crazies. Non-citizens.

I don't think misdemeanor DV should be a permanent disqualifier, either. Those should be case by case, IMO. Too many variables.

MACS wrote:



Some felonies are bullchit too.
rfenst
3 years ago

Along with 25 other states. SCOTUS needs to rule on this... 2nd amendment gives us all the right, and any state having laws that say anything different are violating our right. The End.

MACS wrote:


Gives us all the right? The End?

Given how you believe the Constitution should be interpreted and applied, were does the Constitution even mention any version of concealed carry (or age)? (I'm not talking about ownership.) It doesn't.

Shouldn't it, therefore, be up to each state to decide itself about open carry and concealed carry?
Sunoverbeach
3 years ago
Why does CC even matter? Is an armed citizen any more dangerous because he doesn't advertise he's carrying? Is he any less so if he has a card that says he's allowed to? I never really understood why that was a thing.
Brewha
3 years ago
And what’s all this crap about long rifles only until 21?? You can join the Navy at 17 but can’t carry a revolver?

What about the 16 year old debutant? Why can’t she have a Glock to protect herself?

Is it NOT true that more guns for everyone is that only way to be safe? Why are these beautiful girls not issued pistols? Don’t we want them safe??

You guys are Hippocrates….
Sunoverbeach
3 years ago
I am not now, nor have I ever been, an ancient Greek physician
rfenst
3 years ago

And what’s all this crap about long rifles only until 21?? You can join the Navy at 17 but can’t carry a revolver?

What about the 16 year old debutant? Why can’t she have a Glock to protect herself?

Is it NOT true that more guns for everyone is that only way to be safe? Why are these beautiful girls not issued pistols? Don’t we want them safe??

You guys are Hippocrates….

Brewha wrote:


More like arbitrary- with respect to age.

rfenst
3 years ago

I am not now, nor have I ever been, an ancient Greek physician

Sunoverbeach wrote:


Spell check error vs. no spell check vs. totally intentional?
I await his word...
HockeyDad
3 years ago
Are we debating “shall not be abridged”?

Sounds like some abridging going on here.
8trackdisco
3 years ago

Why does CC even matter? Is an armed citizen any more dangerous because he doesn't advertise he's carrying?

Sunoverbeach wrote:



In my opinion, Yes. Main reason is if someone, or a group of people seeing you open carrying, they are more likely to get the jump on you, and at best, you lose your gun.

Like having the element of surprise.
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