Speyside2
2 years ago
What if Biden was on trial instead of Trump, the exact same trial? If you were on the jury, would you automatically vote guilty even if the evidence was strong enough that you had reasonable doubt? If you feel this happened to Trump, then I feel my question is fair.
8trackdisco
2 years ago

What if Biden was on trial instead of Trump, the exact same trial? If you were on the jury, would you automatically vote guilty even if the evidence was strong enough that you had reasonable doubt? If you feel this happened to Trump, then I feel my question is fair.

Speyside2 wrote:



I’d beg to get off of the jury.
We only know about 1.2% of the actual testimony.
Because of that percentage, I couldn’t vote guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
jeebling
2 years ago
There is no way I would vote Biden guilty if I thought he was not guilty. I wouldn’t care who is on trial, I wouldn’t do that. I still think he’s a terrible President but that has nothing to do with it.
JGRAZ
2 years ago

What if Biden was on trial instead of Trump, the exact same trial? If you were on the jury, would you automatically vote guilty even if the evidence was strong enough that you had reasonable doubt? If you feel this happened to Trump, then I feel my question is fair.

Speyside2 wrote:



Would I? NO, But I like to think I'm a reasonable person. I support who I support but I'm not without scruples, I realize he's flawed. There are however people, on both sides that have exactly none. People that can and will do whatever they feel is necessary to accomplish their goal. So do I feel this happened to Trump? YES, to a degree. I'm sure it was not all 12 jurors though, I have no doubt whatsoever that at least some of that 12 went in hell bent on "guilty" no matter what they heard.

All things equal if it was Biden instead in same trial, with the same circumstances, with same exact witnesses, saying the same exact things, Biden would be not guilty in my eyes based on Cohens testimony alone.
jeebling
2 years ago
JGRAZ, I agree with you.
RayR
2 years ago
I don't think the Republicans are daring enough to put on a show trial like that.


8trackdisco
2 years ago

Would I? NO, But I like to think I'm a reasonable person. I support who I support but I'm not without scruples, I realize he's flawed. There are however people, on both sides that have exactly none. People that can and will do whatever they feel is necessary to accomplish their goal. So do I feel this happened to Trump? YES, to a degree. I'm sure it was not all 12 jurors though, I have no doubt whatsoever that at least some of that 12 went in hell bent on "guilty" no matter what they heard.

All things equal if it was Biden instead in same trial, with the same circumstances, with same exact witnesses, saying the same exact things, Biden would be not guilty in my eyes based on Cohens testimony alone.

JGRAZ wrote:



Biden would get off on a mental Incompetence. One of the things Trumpers, Independents, and Conservatives generally agree upon that.
RayR
2 years ago

Biden would get off on a mental Incompetence. One of the things Trumpers, Independents, and Conservatives generally agree upon that.

8trackdisco wrote:



A lot of criminals try to get off, claiming mental Incompetence.
JGRAZ
2 years ago

Biden would get off on a mental Incompetence. One of the things Trumpers, Independents, and Conservatives generally agree upon that.

8trackdisco wrote:



Please don't pretend the majority of Dems don't agree on that too. Any rational person can see it.
HockeyDad
2 years ago
“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” it said. “Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”
rfenst
2 years ago

All things equal if it was Biden instead in same trial, with the same circumstances, with same exact witnesses, saying the same exact things, Biden would be not guilty in my eyes based on Cohens testimony alone.

JGRAZ wrote:


I disagree.

What about all the evidence and testimony from Trump aids and employees. All that was stipulated to or put into evidence through others with direct knowledge, well before Cohen even took the stand.

If Bidden did the same thing under the same circumstances, convict him.
Stogie1020
2 years ago

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” it said. “Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

HockeyDad wrote:


Precisely, it never would have been charged if it were Biden... because "we feel sorry for the guy."
rfenst
2 years ago

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” it said. “Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

HockeyDad wrote:


Whether he has a poor memory is not an issue for a lawyer or investigator to assess. That issue belongs in the hands of a neuropsychologist. Any other assessment is pure B.S.
HockeyDad
2 years ago

Whether he has a poor memory is not an issue for a lawyer or investigator to assess. That issue belongs in the hands of a neuropsychologist. Any other assessment is pure B.S.

rfenst wrote:



Exactly. That’s why Biden should be arrested and charged for mishandling classified documents. Nobody is above the law.

Oh wait, none of that happened or will happen. We could never get a jury of 12 neuropsychologists.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
Or 12 republicans from Palm Beach?
RayR
2 years ago

Or 12 republicans from Palm Beach?

ZRX1200 wrote:



I heard there were 8 Leftist Lizard Ladies from Manhatten on Trumps jury trial. 🤨
Abrignac
2 years ago

What if Biden was on trial instead of Trump, the exact same trial? If you were on the jury, would you automatically vote guilty even if the evidence was strong enough that you had reasonable doubt? If you feel this happened to Trump, then I feel my question is fair.

Speyside2 wrote:



It was/is a horseshit case built upon a horseshit interpretation of the facts by a horseshit DA.

No way this should have gone to trial regardless of who was “accused”.
rfenst
2 years ago

Exactly. That’s why Biden should be arrested and charged for mishandling classified documents. Nobody is above the law.

HockeyDad wrote:


Must be one hell of a big rug and broom you are using to sweep the facts of the "mishandling" case under the rug. There is a hell of a lot more meat to that case than alleging he was just merely retaining a few documents.
8trackdisco
2 years ago

Exactly. That’s why Biden should be arrested and charged for mishandling classified documents. Nobody is above the law.

Oh wait, none of that happened or will happen. We could never get a jury of 12 neuropsychologists.

HockeyDad wrote:



Agreed. Biden and Obama should be charged.

At least when Trump did the same thing, he returned everything immediately. Oh…….. wait.

Isn’t he still “negotiating” the return of the documents he shouldn’t have in the first place?

I know, I know. It’s another weaponization of…. Blah blah blah.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
^ remind me again about Sniffy being POTUS when he TOOK said docs…..

You really so far gone you want to pretend the left is treated the same?

Jesus.
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