Know what is surprising?

https://www.declassified.live/p/the-silent-insurrection-general-milleys 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nancy-pelosi-says-i-take-responsibility-for-not-having-national-guard-at-the-capitol-on-jan-6-in-video-shot-by-her-own-daughter/ar-BB1nYWK0 

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2023/08/10/the-media-ignores-defunct-jan-6-committees-destruction-of-evidence-n2626849 [/i][/color]

Stop ignoring the facts in front of your face.

Do you think 1/6 was benign?

I heard it was the equivalent to Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

Yes, any serious attempt to take over would involve guns, lots of them and not just the one the capitol police used to murder a protester.

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In cold blood. She had no weapon and his life was not threatened.

Yes, and it appears if she had ducked, the shot would have hit officers behind her.

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Simple Yes or No question. But, that is an irrelevant, side-step answer.

Certainly they were much more serious events in terms of death.

However, YOU used the term "benign" while describing 1/6:


benign
adjective
be·​nign bi-ˈnīn

1: a of a mild type or character that does not threaten health or life
especially : not becoming cancerous
a benign lung tumor
b: having no significant effect : HARMLESS
environmentally benign

2: of a gentle disposition : GRACIOUS
a benign teacher

3a: showing kindness and gentleness
benign faces
b: FAVORABLE, WHOLESOME
a benign climate

(Merriam Webster0


So, again: Yes or No. Do you think 1/6 was benign?

AOC almost got killed on January 6.

It was benign. Only 1 person died and that was Ashley Babbitt. Vandalism. Some people were escorted around the Capitol by the capitol police. That was extremely benign compared to the BLM riots.

Likely would have been absolutely nothing if it wasn't for Pelosi saying no to the Nat'l Guard and the FBI plants in the crowd getting folks going that otherwise wouldn't have been inclined to vandalize.

Don't forget the Civil War too.

The Volokh Conspiracy
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The January 6th Riot Was Not Like the Civil War
A Response to Ilya Somin

Steven Calabresi | 1.7.2024 1:01 PM

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Read the articles and watch the vid I posted earlier.

They got away with murder.

i actually consider myself left of center but by no means an extremist.

for example - i fully support LGBTQ+ rights and believe they should have every right afforded anyone else when it comes to marriage, Family Planning, equality, protections against discriminations etc... i do find myself often not agreeing with medical procedures related to trans individuals that are minors though which many on the left seem ok with however, i tend to defer to the medical professionals for these types of things as i have no knowledge or training on the matter.

I believe in the second Amendment and the right it affords us in this country to own and posses firearms... i also believe that some restrictions on this meant to protect the citizenry at large is a good thing...

I believe that birth right citizenship should remain and that those that may have been brought into the country illegally as small children with no knowledge of the crime and that have never known anywhere else to be home (especially those that have reached adult hood) or "dreamers" as they are often called, should be allowed to remain with an expedited path to citizen ship while i also believe that we should not have an "Open Border" and must do more to protect our nation. but, i also think we should process asylum seekers more quickly and with more compassion then the "right" seems to be interested in...

i believe the last election was won legitimately and the claims that it was "stolen" are such a joke that i refuse to even debate it any further...

I believe any and all statues erected, streets or schools names for and the like of confederate "heroes" built between the 1890s and 1960s, which matches up exactly with the era of Jim Crow segregation should be changed and or moved to museums/historical parks.

i believe the confederate flag has nothing to do with heritage and is should not be flown in the US... they didn't want to be part of this country and thus were traitors... those that claim it is "heritage" are idiots considering all the things in life that lasted longer then the confederacy and yet are not considered "heritage" and no one flys a flag know to be associated with hate groups for those things.

i am able to separate the BLM movement for which i believe is/was valid from the BLM "Group" which has been proven to not be a good thing...

i believe police should be held accountable for the many violations of citizens rights, brutality, and undeniable bias toward minorities... but, i also believe that as a whole, the police try to do the right thing and should not be "defunded". that being said, they also should not have tanks and other weapons typically used by the limitary...

as someone that has served this country in a civilian role for well over 20 years, 15 of that over seas in several countries and has spent decades on and around military bases i fully support our troops and believe they should be treated better both while active and as veterans. The VA needs more funding and support. i am also tired of the endless wars we continue to fight on the behalf of others and in some cases solely for $$$ but believe we have a duty to stand with our allies and held defend them against tyrants.

I am personally, anti abortion and would never advocate for an abortion of my own child, grand child or anyone else... but, i also support a women's right to choose and believe medical decisions should be left to the women and her Dr. not a politician... not allowing abortion in the case of incest, rape, or medical necessity is just as barbaric as the act of abortion itself.

i am an Athiest, that believes you have the right to worship and believe anything you want about a bearded sky wizard or any other deity but this nation is not and was never meant to be ruled by religion. god should not have been added to our money in the 50s, should not be part of our "pledge of allegiance" and has no place in any government buildings.

this is just a short list of the things that i believe make me "left of center" but could go on, some of my believes would get me lambasted by the left and certainly dragged by a lynch mob of the right... i have had both sides tell me how wrong i am, i have been called a race traitor and "**** lover" by trump supporters and have been called an apologist by extremists on the left when discussing some of the above...

and for those that i know will jump at the chance in this thread, i have no interest in debating any of my beliefs above so don't bother...

I’m bothering…. Bothering so hard right now…..

Have you ever thought maybe it’s not just the difference but the zealous false equivalency that’s so quickly pasted to the idea “enemy” that’s more to blame ?

Not saying you, it was a generalization.

Absolutely.

# 92, drgInc

Thanks for the response. We are not so different as the blamestream media would have us believe. We clearly have our differences but nothing to my mind that could not be accommodated by respectful and well meaning people. I think it is the party organizers and media that force the idea of irreconcilable differences among the masses. We have scapegoating and confirmation bias riding roughshod over public discourse.

So, who is worse?

I will focus on rural America when considering the bad of the Trump presidency,

1) Downsizing the post office slowed deliveries to rural America by about 2 days.
2) Rural development funds were eliminated.
3) Draconian cuts to rural investment were proposed.
4) Siding with agribusiness against independent farmers.
5) Endangering meatpacking workers and consumers.
6) Sacrificing small and medium farms in his trade wars.
7) Leaving farmers of color in the lurch.
8) Robbing rural communities of their natural amenities.
9) Making rural Americans pay the price for the border wall shut down.
10) Sabotaging essential agriculture market data and research.

I have cobbled this together form the reading I do so I cannot give you a source. If you are interested, you can find all of this. Trump treats rural America like he did contractors. He legally screwed them. To be fair I will post on Biden also. My point is don't tell me how great Trump was, he wasn't.

Tells people the election was stolen.
Then the real steal attempt starts with seven states start creating fake delegates.
Then he tells them to March on the capitol.
Then watches the violence start and does nothing for a couple hours.

Yes, that is what a good leader does. Sounds like the man to lead the country.

I don't smell panic anymore.





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