HockeyDad
a year ago

The stage is yours to tell us how you’ve help construct the upcoming doom, and how much money you’ve made or will make creating it.

Forget those who served in the military.

You are a true American hero.

8trackdisco wrote:



Nothing I can do about it. Best bet will be investing in hard assets as the dollar fails. The stage is already set. Did you see we just updated the deficit projection for this year to 2.1 trillion?

I don’t ever forget those who served in the military. My dad got one of those really neat Purple Heart awards in Vietnam while fighting the commies. Might be why I’m in no hurry to send our current troops off to Ukraine.
HockeyDad
a year ago
But speaking of bloodbaths….

Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) said on this week’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Saturday Show” that if former President Donald Trump wins in November, there will be violence and “more killings.” Host Jonathan Capehart asked, “How concerned are you about your safety if Donald Trump is re-elected?”

Waters said, “I’m very concerned, not only about my safety and not only about the safety of members of Congress. I’m concerned about the safety of so many people in this country, particularly people of color. Donald Trump has said that if he does not win, it is going to be fraud, and because it is going to be fraud, there will be blood in the streets. He threatens about a civil war, and he threatens there’s going to be violence. I would say all of this talk is motivational with many of those who are racist, who are sitting at home listening to him, and they are taking him up on his threats even before the elections take place. It is about thousands, maybe millions of people being threatened and being at risk because of Donald Trump and his desire to seek revenge on anything and everybody.”

She added, “I do believe having listened to Donald Trump so many times and having the attack, the insurrection that took place on the House of Representatives in Congress, on the Capitol, the Capitol grounds, we could be in for more killings like that. I think Donald Trump has to take responsibility for what he is saying about blood in the streets and violence if he is not elected to be the president of the United States of America.”
jeebling
a year ago

The Hush Money Fraud case was probably the hardest one to prove beyound a reasonable doubt.

The Georgia case seems more convictable. When you start with calling asking someone to "find 12,000 votes" that is a problem right out of the box.

The classificed docuents (to me) is a slam dunk.
-He wasn't supposed to have them.
-He has them. Perhaps he accidentally got those file? I guess?
- He doesn't return them immediately, and when found in possession of them, you start to negotiate their return?

That's a problem. His own arrogance will be his downfall.

For a better perpective on all those cases, rfenst (mostly retired lawyer) would have a much better perpective than me.


8trackdisco wrote:



My point of contention with the Georgia “find 12,000 votes” issue is that I believe Donald Trump actually thought he had those votes and that there were illegal votes cast and or counted. I don’t believe that Donald Trump was telling his people to create 12,000 votes that didn’t exist. I believe he was literally saying “find” votes that have been hidden and not counted. This is why I don’t believe Trump was trying to overturn a legal or legitimate election. I want to be clear about something here - this is a statement of my belief based on my opinions and I’m not trying to state my opinions as fact.

The classified documents scandal would require a lot of typing to express my opinion. I have a lot of “what about, what about” points to make that do not change much about the laws but they do, I think, show unfair weaponization of the Justice Department targeting Trump for things that they specifically let other elected officials slide on in the past and present. One point to make is that Trump never denied that he had the documents and he claims he possesses the documents legally and he is fighting this in the legal system. Maybe he’s correct, maybe he’s confused, maybe he’s arrogant, maybe he’s dumb but to me, it appears as though he thinks he’s correct and he’s fighting for what he believes in the courts. This scenario is far from espionage or treason in my opinion.

I think rfenst always has interesting and thoughtful things to say in these forums but I’m also interested in what you think. I appreciate you taking the time to condense your thoughts for me.
RayR
a year ago

But speaking of bloodbaths….

Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) said on this week’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Saturday Show” that if former President Donald Trump wins in November, there will be violence and “more killings.” Host Jonathan Capehart asked, “How concerned are you about your safety if Donald Trump is re-elected?”

Waters said, “I’m very concerned, not only about my safety and not only about the safety of members of Congress. I’m concerned about the safety of so many people in this country, particularly people of color. Donald Trump has said that if he does not win, it is going to be fraud, and because it is going to be fraud, there will be blood in the streets. He threatens about a civil war, and he threatens there’s going to be violence. I would say all of this talk is motivational with many of those who are racist, who are sitting at home listening to him, and they are taking him up on his threats even before the elections take place. It is about thousands, maybe millions of people being threatened and being at risk because of Donald Trump and his desire to seek revenge on anything and everybody.”

She added, “I do believe having listened to Donald Trump so many times and having the attack, the insurrection that took place on the House of Representatives in Congress, on the Capitol, the Capitol grounds, we could be in for more killings like that. I think Donald Trump has to take responsibility for what he is saying about blood in the streets and violence if he is not elected to be the president of the United States of America.”

HockeyDad wrote:



That decrepit old lefty lizard lady sure is a drama queen.
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drglnc
a year ago

I’m trying to see the forest through the trees but the fog is too thick. Wasn’t Trump beating the pants off all of the other candidates? If he was, does that mean he’s the most electable? Or is there an implication that Dem voters would never vote for Trump over Biden but they might swing for one of the other Republican candidates? I’m not following the logic on the electability claim.

Also, is it possible that some voters might vote for Trump because they think he’s a better choice than Biden? Maybe these voters don’t love Trump but they don’t have confidence in Biden? I can understand some people voting for Biden because they hate Trump or because they think Biden is a better choice and not just because they hate Trump or because they are drinking the DNC KoolAid. All the above. Is there only one type of person voting for Trump? Just brainwashed MAGA and no others? That just doesn’t seem likely to me.

jeebling wrote:




This "lefty" would have happily voted for a few different Republicans over Biden...
MACS
a year ago

He didn't get enough blood on January 6th.

No need to correct me.

Anything he said or didn't say on that day were all taken out of context.



Or...
A:- This is misinformation because it comes from MSM.
Or...
B:- It's a deep fake/fake news.
Or...
C:- He didn't mean it. It was taken out of context.

8trackdisco wrote:



Didn't see anything in that clip calling for violence... because he never has. Yes, the MSM lies repeatedly. You know it as well as I do so I don't need to provide hundreds of examples of them doing it.
RayR
a year ago
More on AOC and Jamaal Bowman calling for REVOLUTION. I guess Grandpa Bernie was there too.

Watch: AOC Hysterically Screams And Rants About “Fighting” While Rap Music Blares At Bronx Rally

Steve Watson
23rd June 2024

“Hoes better lower they tone when they spittin’.”

If you want a picture of how unhinged the far left is, look no further.

Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to the stage at Jamaal Bowman’s rally in the Bronx on Saturday as if she was a WWE wrestler on crack.

AOC got on the stage to a Cardi B rap song with the lyrics “Hoes better lower they tone when they spittin’. Bitches is washed, soap on the dishes.”

Ok.

It continues, “They was just in my DMs, ain’t no trustin’ these sluts. I’m about to call up Diamond, bitch, knuck if you buck.”

Dunno what that means but an elected representative jumping up and down to it and screaming looks mental.

“Let’s go Bronx! Are you ready to fight!?” AOC Shrieked.

She then screeched something else about fighting for about 20 seconds throwing her arms around before thankfully smacking the microphones out of the path of her mouth.

More...

https://modernity.news/2024/06/23/watch-aoc-hysterically-screams-and-rants-about-fighting-while-rap-music-blares-at-bronx-rally/ 



I love it when one Lefty Progressive turns on another.
Disgraced former governor Andrew Cuomo doesn't like Jamaal Bowman much.

Andrew Cuomo trolls Jamaal Bowman in election, calling back to fire alarm incident

By Brady Knox -
June 25, 2024 10:53 am

Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo urged voters to vote against Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY), recalling his pulling a fire alarm.

Bowman is facing the toughest primary of any progressive House “Squad” Democrat, with polls showing him down by double digits. The gap is largely due to his critical position against Israel during the war in Gaza. Cuomo urged primary voters to vote against him on Tuesday, hitting him on his Israel stance and past fire alarm controversy.

“Jamaal Bowman should pull the fire alarm again because he is going to be smoked by @LatimerforNY today,” he said in a post on X. “The message is clear: anti-semitism in any and all forms will not be tolerated in New York. And you can’t call yourself a progressive without making progress. Vote!”

More...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/congressional/3057832/cuomo-trolls-bowman-fire-alarm/ 

jeebling
a year ago

This "lefty" would have happily voted for a few different Republicans over Biden...

drglnc wrote:



Thanks, Charles. There is probably a lot of folks in your camp. In the current environment, do you consider yourself fairly moderate overall when considering policies or platforms of “both” sides? In the current environment I consider myself right-wing, not on the right-fringe mind you. I think I’ve been left of center occasionally in the past but I’m pretty much, as I said, more to the right.
frankj1
a year ago

This "lefty" would have happily voted for a few different Republicans over Biden...

drglnc wrote:


me too


megadittos? (this struck me funny)
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

me too


megadittos? (this struck me funny)

frankj1 wrote:




"Megadittos"...Oh the dank desperation of Despair is in the air now too and they dared invoke the "Spirit of Limbaugh"...Lord, they know not what they do...imagine that scene where the Nazis open up the Ark of the Covenant...it's like that but 100x worse. Quick light a Cuban cigar!
frankj1
a year ago

"Megadittos"...Oh the dank desperation of Despair is in the air now too and they dared invoke the "Spirit of Limbaugh"...Lord, they know not what they do...imagine that scene where the Nazis open up the Ark of the Covenant...it's like that but 100x worse. Quick light a Cuban cigar!

DrMaddVibe wrote:


cool your jets. When I earned a living on the road I listened to him on the car radio every day.
jeebling
a year ago
Frank, is that back when you were touring with Willie Nelson?
Stogie1020
a year ago
Down goes Bowman...
rfenst
a year ago

This "lefty" would have happily voted for a few different Republicans over Biden...

drglnc wrote:


Me too!
BUT NEVER TRUMP!
rfenst
a year ago

This "lefty" would have happily voted for a few different Republicans over Biden...

drglnc wrote:


Me too!
BUT NEVER TRUMP!
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

cool your jets. When I earned a living on the road I listened to him on the car radio every day.

frankj1 wrote:



At least we were alive to have heard him. Some were even cured of their insanity.

RIP
RayR
a year ago

Down goes Bowman...

Stogie1020 wrote:



Ya, DemoBolshevik Bowman got smoked by 17 points. 👻
HockeyDad
a year ago

Ya, DemoBolshevik Bowman got smoked by 17 points. 👻

RayR wrote:



Somebody pull the fire alarm!
8trackdisco
a year ago

Didn't see anything in that clip calling for violence... because he never has. Yes, the MSM lies repeatedly. You know it as well as I do so I don't need to provide hundreds of examples of them doing it.

MACS wrote:



Sure. In a vacuum, the march to the capitol appears bnign enough. However (comma) when that comes on the heels of a spech where he tells his supporters the election was stolen from them, the result is not surprising.
RayR
a year ago

Somebody pull the fire alarm!

HockeyDad wrote:



I heard it's a day of mourning and silence at Jacobin Magazine as they ponder this setback to the socialist revolution.

They previously warned that "If Bowman is defeated, all the opponents of progressive politics — centrist Democrats, the fossil fuel industry, real-estate developers — will take the message that leftist principles can be used against leftist candidates. That would be a disaster for the socialist project."


Jamaal Bowman Deserves the Left’s Support

By Liza Featherstone

New York congressman Jamaal Bowman is a democratic socialist incumbent under fire by AIPAC for his pro-Palestinian stances and corporate lobbyists for his progressive domestic policy. His defeat would be a serious setback for the Left.

https://jacobin.com/2024/03/jamaal-bowman-cease-fire-gaza-reelection 



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