Lets, be clear, Zelensky threatened the USA:

Zelensky, noting that for now, "...the U.S. is separated from the fighting by an ocean, said of the war, "You don't feel it now, but you'll feel it in the future..."

Gene363 wrote:

I think we all know that if Ukraine falls to Russia it will only be a matter of months before Russian troops invade New York City.

HockeyDad wrote:

Lets, be clear, Zelensky threatened the USA:

Zelensky, noting that for now, "...the U.S. is separated from the fighting by an ocean, said of the war, "You don't feel it now, but you'll feel it in the future..."

Gene363 wrote:

1) What did he threaten to do to the U.S.?

2) Zelensky's message cut to the heart of what critics say is Trump's fundamental miscalculation in dealing with Russia. That by ending Moscow's isolation and seeking a quick ceasefire he risks emboldening Putin, weakening Europe and leaving Ukraine open to being devoured."

rfenst wrote:

#3 hockeydad's post

!!! Awesome dry humor!!

I LMAO!! 🤣🤣

Mr. Jones wrote:

HD is a sharp cookie.

Gene363 wrote:

most cookies are round.

Seriously Gene, I didn't hear it as a threat in live time. It felt more like "heads up", or a reminder of why we must always be vigilant against the likes of Putin, Hitler, etc. Sounded like he was saying remember Neville Chamberlain...updated to "give him Ukraine to satiate his desire" only to learn...too late... his appetite is insatiable.

frankj1 wrote:

Sounds like Neville took a left turn in Albuquerque!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/disaster-in-the-oval-office-dems-lead-zelensky-ukraine-off-a-cliff-with-pressure-to-reject-mineral-deal/ar-AA1A48Zn  [/i]

The DNC is a terrorist organization.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I read it. It's an opinion I can read here in a number of threads.

Despite the likelihood that we share the conviction that the war needs to end, I guess where we disagree is:

1) as the smaller victim, you'd sign an agreement giving the invader what they want without any promise of security for your people, and I wouldn't.
and
2) you believe Putin would be honorable, and I don't.

I don't hate you for that. I just believe your trust in men like Putin is misguided, hence my Chamberlain reference.
The world has been here before, most of Europe has deeper memories of this type of aggression though.

Hoping the news cycle begins an upturn before more destruction occurs.

frankj1 wrote:

some, yes. some no, just too much for me to reply to thought by thought, sorry.

But a couple corrections are valid here.

1) Though it wasn't until early in the Johnson (D) administration that we "openly" engaged in direct combat, we had been in Viet Nam for nearly a decade due to Eisenhower (R) who first sent "advisors" there. He was determined to stop that domino thing and invested heavily in trying to create the fairly new country South Viet Nam as an example of how our system shines for the world to see in Southeast Asia. Lotta money too, for those times.

2) The Bay of Pigs Invasion fiasco was choreographed by (again) Eisenhower (R), and as his administration gave way to Kennedy's, there was an agreement to move forth as planned...such was the concerns of Communism spreading by both sides of the aisle in those days. Most people alive then had memory of WWII and absolutely the recent Korean "Police Action" or whatever we called it then...I was just a toddler..

Fortunately, Kennedy (D) acted as a true leader and, knowing his adversary Krushchev was not really into the confrontation, got him to back off.

I included the (R) and (D) cuz I have a sense of humor, and also to illustrate how silly and divisive it can be to try to assign all blame to either of the major parties, especially considering how each changes over decades. It makes open debating untenable...I think that's the word I want.

But what stood out for me the most was your conclusion:

"NOBODY is going to sign a peace treaty with a dictator."

Ummmmm...Putin?

I'd be all in on a bet that far more people in the USA would think of Putin first when asked to name a dictator.

So on that we agree...NOBODY is going to sign a peace treaty with a dictator...not without a security provision, for obvious reasons.

frankj1 wrote:

Some.of us heard it as ........just front me another$100 billion,even though we cannot account for $100's of billions already sent our way.


Whose bank accounts have been swelling since Biden took office???


Answers welcome here

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