AVB, so you're denying that the Mossad tortures people? Or you aren't? Are you denying that the sun will come up tomorrow morning if I can't post proof? Are you denying gravity if I can't prove it to you in person? Why can't you simply accept the fact that "some" things need no proof. I'm not calling you names? I simply said that you would be the only person on this site who believes that the Mossad does not torture people. If that makes you feel stupid, I apologize for making you feel stupid. Have a good evening...

p.s., enjoy the crickets...

Robby

If If you insist on me digging the quotes up and re-posting, I will, are you denying that you said this? Are you denying that you said "are we them?" with regard to the abuse scandal? Are you denying that you said the mossad is not them?

you insist on me digging the quotes up and re-posting, I will, are you denying that you said this? Are you denying that you said "are we them?" with regard to the abuse scandal? Are you denying that you said the mossad is not them?

i said in answer to your question “Is the Mossad “them”” NO.

i also asked "are we them?".

somehow you concluded

"Ok, so it's ok for the Mossad to torture people? They do, don't they? Why is it "ok" for the Mossad to torture people, but NOT ok for us to do it? And thank you for your acceptance of the fact that torture is justified"

the conclusion you made is incongruous.

your statment

"They (the Mossad) do torture people. He (Rick) approves of it and agrees that they (the Mossad) are not "them" the terrorists or as bad as the same. So the bottom line here is that I'm right."

is a lie and the result of faulty thinking. that makes you a liar or someone who can convince himself that his thinking process and reasoning power is sacrosanct..

it's not. you draw conclusions from the ether.

just apologise for your faulty logic, or remain a liar.

i like to play mind games as well as the next person, but you have started to obsess over this, so i will take my leave of you and this magnificant obsession of yours.

at least rock hudson tried to cure blindness.

Robby, you remind me of an autistic adult when you obsess on the Mossad question.

Please add the following to your repertoire:

1. What is the frequency, Kenneth? (Dan "give me a good beating" Rather)
2. Is it safe? (Marathon Man)

If you can get Rick to answer these questions, I'll sleep like a baby tonight. LOL

blood

1. about a dollar
2. yea, blue light special, yea, kmart.

next time, read the "do not feed the animals" sign.

Maven, you are the most pompous a$$ I have ever seen. You lay silent for days at a time and then quip up that I "don't understand you". Perhaps if you would speak up it would be easier? And then you go on to say what you didn't say and what you didn't mean. You still run from the question like a coward. I will pursue you no further. You're making it a childish game and I won't play anymore. I know the following to be true whether you admit it or not. I know that liberals such as your self (here comes Rick trying to be cute, I’m a raunchy moaner conservative, Oh GOD that is SO F’ING FUNNY! I’ll need a moment, ok, I’m ready to move on.org) are prone to lie openly and repeatedly (the big lie was and is used effectively by the Communist Chinese). And you’re really no different, so here you go. I wanted to drop this, I wanted to pipe down, but you didn’t want it that way, you wanted to stir the $h!t back up. Now take a big bite.

1. You posted a FLAME by Molly Ivans, which said we were as bad as the terrorists (them). Here’s the URL incase your Alzheimer’s is kicking in and you can’t remember;

http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/forum/forum.cfm?action=list&forumID=9&messageDisplay=0000000023426#236158 


2. You posted further down in that post "we have become them" (read they, them the terrorists) Or you can try to get cute with what you mean for the others here. I'll never view your ravings as "cute"

Here’s where you said “we” (America) have become “them” (the terrorists).

“robby and others

apparently my premise is correct, we have become them. “

But when confronted with this, your feeble and failing memory recalled the following as posted below;

“also asked "are we them?".

somehow you concluded “

The spin is magnificent, Bill Clinton would be proud. You didn’t ask “are we them?” a seemingly innocuous statement, rather YOU SAID (please refer back to the original thread if you question this) you said “we have become them”. I.e., “We” (America) have become “them”, i.e., (the terrorists). Now you try to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes and lie about what you said. Well it’s right there in black and white and can only be taken one way. You trash our president daily, but when you start trashing our country, I’m going to step up and call you an A$$H0!E

Now crawl back in to bed, take your medication, wipe the drool from your chin, eat your oatmeal and STFU.

RICKAMAVEN wrote: "but you have started to obsess over this, so i will take my leave of you and this magnificant obsession of yours."

Not that this applies to you at all... Gets old when people keep going on and on and on and on, doesn't it Rick?

428cj

i am a little obsessed with getting rid of this administration. but you will note i do discuss other issues also, and i posted pictures of plants and pictures of kerry in a non favorable light. why recently i posted something about a car.

last night we watched "finding nemo" but since everyone has seen it, there was nothing i could post that would cause conflict.

i also don't call other people names.

but you are correct i do post things and they do get old. may i suggest, when you start to read any of my posts and realize it is the same old bush bashing, you avoid it and look for someone else's post or something i might have posted that has nothing to do with
little w.

Well now I'm feeling left out, I haven't seen Finding Nemo. Oh well, guess I'll never know now about it, at least not from here!

Good advice about your posts. No offense (really), but I do ignore most of your posts. At least the ones about the same old topic anyway.

428cj

i am not offended by you not reading my posts, i probably wouldn't either.

would you like me to sand you a copy of "finding nemo" on vcr. i have equipment to dup tapes so it's no trouble and my mother taught me to share.

if you would, send me a snail address to
RICKAMAVEN
@HOTMAIL
.COM

incidentally, i don't discuss politicas in my emails.

Yeah intent has a lot to do with the punishment.

I catch my wife sleeping around and run the guy over with my car and kill him vs I'm driving down the street and some guy isn't paying attention and walks in front of my car and hit him and kill him. In both cases the guy isn't any less dead. But the facts and intent are looked at.

I think that is the deal with hate crimes. In my mind If a guy is sleeping with my wife and he is black and I kill him it is NOT a hate crime even though he is black and I'm white. But the problem I see with this kind of law is that because we are two different races someone could say I killed him because he was black and therefore it is a hate crime. When in fact it didn't matter if he was black, white, russian, jewish or gay I would have killed him anyway because he was sleeping with my wife....although I doubt a gay guy would sleep with my wife.

I really appreciate the offer for the movie, but in all honesty I was only joking about it. I have heard that it's a good film, but at this point I don't have much interest in it (many more movies in order before it that I want to see, just have to find the time to watch them first!).

Thanks again though, nice offer.

428cj, Rick IS a generous botl, but he's also an acquired taste. You either hate him or like him. However, I think that if you get to know the gentleman, you'll like him. Maybe I'm warped.

I tend to be more conservative than Mr. Maven but I often find his slant on things interesting. He stimulates the circulation and helps prevent hardening of the forum. Read his posts under your doctor's guidance. LOL

BTW, I don't read all his threads either- unless I have leisure time to access a pipe, reading monocle, my monogrammed Dr. NO smoking jacket, and oh yes, a large can of Fosters.

blood

PS: BTW, I'm not going to pile up on Robby, except to say that I don't remember seeing this side of him when I first began to post, but I've had my "moments" too...