RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, February 5, 2005 10:51:00 AM
tony was a female who lived as a man in appearance and dress.

she suggested that he had a bad time of life for years because of illneses. i don't really know what her life was like, because so much of it was fantasy, but i know she found peace with sara. and i know i liked her as a him. she had a good sense of people and an understanding of how people should treat each other. you can see that in her posts. you could not call her a liberal or a conservative, you could only call her a humanist.

usahog
Saturday, February 5, 2005 10:54:00 AM
Very well said Rick!!!!

Hog

countryboy83
Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:00:00 AM
I don't know how you can say what you just said about Tony, and they turn around and try to "slap people in the face" with it.

You're warped.

Country

usahog
Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:04:00 AM
Did I miss something here??

Hog

spadesman
Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:06:00 AM
Thanks for the info Rick. Nice words about Tony. I was unaware of the issue until Country very politely brought it to my attention. I still feel a loss for never having had dealings with Tony and wish peace and confort for the family. My deepest condolences go to the family that is left behind.
usahog
Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:18:00 AM
I did miss something and I cought up...

"how are the christians going to justify tony getting into heaven considering she was gay. i was under the impression that homosexuals go to hell. they are an abomination in god's eyes and not accepted in god's heaven."

See Rick even you have a narrow minded view set in your mind about Christians... Your Impressions that you recieve only leave you to believe one way straight and narrow...This Judgement is left up to the eye's and laws of God... no one else on this earth can determin what lies ahead for Man after the facts of life here on earth... what little we know about anyone is something left judged here on earth... It's a "manly thing" or a fleshly comentary??

Liberal or Conservitive wouldn't be credentials to get you into heaven... but being a Huminist could very well allow all other sins to pass and put you in a plush apartment??

who are we to judge??

Tony was a good person no matter what gender or race or creed given... and will be deeply missed!!!!

Maybe Rick you need to take another view of that Bible.. you know scriptures and can quote them... but can you really understand them and live them??? Not that you really care to... but in your own mindset.. where are you headed?? thats really all that counts when the curtian closes!!!!

Hog

RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, February 5, 2005 7:26:00 PM
usahog

am i being mislead by christian leaders like falwell, robertson and others whose names escape me. they are the christians that have said the bad things about gays and lesbians, not me,.

why jump at me. these people say the bible doesen't like homosexuals. i don't give a rat's ass one way or the other. again why jump me? why not jump the leaders that preach this message.

i don't understand all this nonsense.

RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, February 5, 2005 7:31:00 PM
countryboy83

of all the things i resent, hypocrisy is near the top.

it is the most deceitful.

show me a senator that screams family values, and i'll show you a senator that is screwing one of his aids and with his free hand pointing at clinton.

countryboy83
Saturday, February 5, 2005 7:32:00 PM
I will confront something that is untrue regardless of it being you or falwell... you can't just dump off the blame on them... when you open your mouth YOU are the one who is responsible for what comes out... lame attempt to pass it off on the christians.

You crack me up, Rick.

Country

countryboy83
Saturday, February 5, 2005 7:35:00 PM
Rick wrote: "show me a senator that screams family values, and i'll show you a senator that is screwing one of his aids and with his free hand pointing at clinton."

really? you hate that....

...it's kind of like you saying that the bible hates gays and then pointing your finger to falwell.

Country