SRH1
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14 years ago
Ramon Bueso....was gifted a few pre-release toros. They were apparently handed out at CigarFest. The look/feel of the stick and band are similar to LP's. Reportedly uses 'stalk cut' tobacco similar to LP. Available for pre-order on the mother site for $60-$90 per box. Smoked a few...one ROTT and the others a few weeks later. Not impressed with the stick ROTT, but the two I just smoked over the weekend were very enjoyable with nice med./full body/flavor and a razor sharp burn.
Any opinions out there?? Tried them? Liked them? Think they suck?
dpnewell
14 years ago
Still have mine from Cfest. Maybe I'll torch it tonight at Dante's. Love stalk cut (LP, Torano Vertuoso, etc.). I'll get back to ya after I smoke it.
Dark Kiwano
14 years ago
Never heard of them, where can I get more info on them.
SRH1
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14 years ago

Never heard of them, where can I get more info on them.

Dark Kiwano wrote:


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WillyV
14 years ago
Any idea if these were handed to everyone? I don't seem to have one in my stash.
matchew
14 years ago
the term stalk cut is nothing new. this is how people have been "harvesting" tobacco for centuries in the U.S.

Does it make a difference in the flavor, once seasoned?
dpnewell
14 years ago

the term stalk cut is nothing new. this is how people have been "harvesting" tobacco for centuries in the U.S.

Does it make a difference in the flavor, once seasoned?

matchew wrote:



From what I understand about "stalk cut", and I may be wrong, is that the leaves are harvested with the stalk. The leaves are hung to cure, still attached to the stalk. Nutrients and sugars from the stalk work thier way back into the leaves during the curing process, giving a unique, almost tropical flavor. Don't know if this is correct, but I was told this by a well respected FOG. All I know is that I pick up unique flavors in stalk cut sticks, that I don't get in others.

Back to Genesis, The Project. I smoked mine tonight at Dantes. Got to say I really, really enjoyed this smoke. I followed it up with an Undercrown Toro, and after the Genesis, the Undercrown was a slight disapointment.

My guess on this one is that these will be very popular, and probably go close to, if not over regular retail when they finally show up here. I may take advantage of the "pre order" price and do a very rare full asking price purchase at CI. Yes, I liked it that much.
matchew
14 years ago
makes since to me.

When I was a kid up to a very young man I would have to work in the tobacco fields and that's how we did it. Cut
the whole plant down then "spike" it on to a big stick with multiple plants then hang it in the barn to "cure". that
was a beach!

Now, in the good ole state of MD, the government pays farmers to not grow tobacco..........
NJ Navy Chief
14 years ago

From what I understand about "stalk cut", and I may be wrong, is that the leaves are harvested with the stalk. The leaves are hung to cure, still attached to the stalk. Nutrients and sugars from the stalk work thier way back into the leaves during the curing process, giving a unique, almost tropical flavor. Don't know if this is correct, but I was told this by a well respected FOG. All I know is that I pick up unique flavors in stalk cut sticks, that I don't get in others.

Back to Genesis, The Project. I smoked mine tonight at Dantes. Got to say I really, really enjoyed this smoke. I followed it up with an Undercrown Toro, and after the Genesis, the Undercrown was a slight disapointment.

My guess on this one is that these will be very popular, and probably go close to, if not over regular retail when they finally show up here. I may take advantage of the "pre order" price and do a very rare full asking price purchase at CI. Yes, I liked it that much.

dpnewell wrote:




Dave, I haven't dug down into the CFest haul very deeply...yet, which one of these are you talking about? I did smoke the Man 'O War Side Project (I think it was the "Little Devil") and thought it was ok, maybe even bordering on good, but not clamoring to buy a box just for myself...yet
dstieger
14 years ago

I may take advantage of the "pre order" price and do a very rare full asking price purchase at CI.

dpnewell wrote:




Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....OK....Who are you and what did you do with dpnewell?

Numismaniac
14 years ago

makes since to me.

When I was a kid up to a very young man I would have to work in the tobacco fields and that's how we did it. Cut
the whole plant down then "spike" it on to a big stick with multiple plants then hang it in the barn to "cure". that
was a beach!

Now, in the good ole state of MD, the government pays farmers to not grow tobacco..........

matchew wrote:



A voice of experience, yes that is correct, never had to help, always worked hay and vegetable crops, but my dad worked on the RR with some guys a county over that would grow their own to cure for twists and chewing. They would stalk cut most then according to desired taste either cut leaves after a short time or let fully dry out, sometimes letting the milder ones ferment in some secret mix, etc.

I went to the curing barns, there are different types according to its use, some was flue cured for cigarette tobacco. If you didn't know better you'd think the barn was on fire, hehe. Don't see that anymore, either.

Very few tobacco farmers left in TN, plan on keeping a few plants again when my health improves, too busy and missed out on New Hope Seeds tobacco plants this year. I send some to some Ndn elders, have a little for ceremonies
clickbangdead
14 years ago
I'll bite, if anyone is already pre-ordering and would be interested in trading away a 5-er or 10-er, let me know.
WillyV
14 years ago

Dave, I haven't dug down into the CFest haul very deeply...yet, which one of these are you talking about? I did smoke the Man 'O War Side Project (I think it was the "Little Devil") and thought it was ok, maybe even bordering on good, but not clamoring to buy a box just for myself...yet

NJ Navy Chief wrote:



Just looked and found mine, white wrapper which looks similar to a LP label. It says "Ramon Bueso" in small black letters. I had it in my pile of CFest cigars to give to my buddies, but will move it to my dry box of smokes to try.
NJ Navy Chief
14 years ago
Oh shiite that one! The one where everyone was wearing those
annoying yellow stickers! Just cranking up my converted gunidor
I will have to make sure that is in the front!
dubleuhb
14 years ago

I'll bite, if anyone is already pre-ordering and would be interested in trading away a 5-er or 10-er, let me know.

clickbangdead wrote:


Was thinking about getting some, Box of 20 robbies is 60 bucks, won't be in until July. Want to split one ?
clickbangdead
14 years ago

Was thinking about getting some, Box of 20 robbies is 60 bucks, won't be in until July. Want to split one ?

dubleuhb wrote:



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dubleuhb
14 years ago
HockeyDad
14 years ago

Ramon Bueso....was gifted a few pre-release toros. They were apparently handed out at CigarFest. The look/feel of the stick and band are similar to LP's. Reportedly uses 'stalk cut' tobacco similar to LP. Available for pre-order on the mother site for $60-$90 per box. Smoked a few...one ROTT and the others a few weeks later. Not impressed with the stick ROTT, but the two I just smoked over the weekend were very enjoyable with nice med./full body/flavor and a razor sharp burn.
Any opinions out there?? Tried them? Liked them? Think they suck?

SRH1 wrote:





I gotta opinion.....bring some to Ybor!
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
I'll trade you a Ybor Treasure for one!
pstsr55
14 years ago
Smoked one today, got it from CFest. Very enjoyable smoke, good burn, not bitter. I would buy them.
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