Thunder.Gerbil
Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:56:45 AM

I'm finding, when I read reviews and other pellet smoking forums, that most folks agree Traeger was much better when it was made here. The guys with the older models seem to have much less trouble than the guys with the chinese made units.

I have 2 buddies at work who have the Texas Pro and love it... but it's their first smoker, so they don't really have that much knowledge. Another has a Traeger Elite, and it's his first, too. The brisket we did on his came out slap your momma good.

Through "Promotive" I can get the Texas Pro, a cover for it, a shelf for it, and 3 bags of pellets for $1,017.75. (20% off)

Now you've got me thinking I should just stick with the WSM... or blow the extra coin on the Pellet Pro. Either way I am keeping the WSM.

MACS wrote:

A pellet cooker is nothing more than a computer controlled wood fired convection oven. It's not a miracle cooker. It's not a do everything cooker. It's an oven. At the higher temps, it might as well be propane fired. Even on the smoke settings, it's only a light smoke. It has some unique advantages and different ways of doing things vs other cookers though.

You have to figure out why you really want or need it. I have one because it does some things easier and in some cases better than any of the 6 other cookers I have, but I could also survive without it.

ZRX1200
Saturday, February 20, 2016 12:38:05 PM
Great read thundergerbil, a friend of mine is a Josephine county sheriff deputy. He put together a kids benefit auction with stuff from local businesses. One of the items was a pellet pro. He did a lot of online research and pretty much said the same thing although not as wordy or knowledgeably. Yeah I make up words.

Anyways he ended up bidding and won it for $775.

He did a tritip at his daughters birthday (reason I was at his house) and it was wonderful. But, I like my tritip lightly smoked. Made me wonder about normal stuff like shoulders and buts etc.

Guess I'll get a WSM first.

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Saturday, February 20, 2016 1:33:17 PM
The WSM is awesome, Jamie. You can do anything on it and with a little practice you can get it to sit, rock solid, at a certain temperature just with the vents.

I have the DigiQ DX and I just set it and forget it for, literally, 12-14 hours without worrying about temp change.

I guess my reason for wanting the pellet smoker is ease of use... and room. I'm still kicking myself for giving up the 22" WSM for the 18". Maybe I'll just spend the $360 and get another 22". Big one for brisket and massive cooks, small one for personal cooks.

BRILLIANT!!

Thunder.Gerbil
Saturday, February 20, 2016 2:42:25 PM
Jamie, butts come out mildly smoked. It's a very clean flavor there is no soot to it. Depending on how you cook them you can also make them very soft. Almost too soft. Also, pellet grills produce the softest and least bark of any cooker I've used.

As for a wsm, they are very capable cookers but not without failings and quirks. I've had an ECB, 2 UDSes, WSM and PBC. Overall I think the PBC (Pit Barrel Cooker) is a better unit though when it comes to verticals. I actually got rid of a wsm and 2 UDSes for pbc because I liked how the pbc worked and found its results to be more along the lines of what I was looking for. No draft controller needed the design airflow is very stable - once you get the air vent set, you never change it and the cooker is incredibly predictable.

All the stuff you see on line in the PBC videos from the company is real. These things really do work just like that.

Also, capacity on the pbc is huge. I can do 8 racks of ribs or 4 chickens or 4 briskets or 6 tri tip on a single cook.

sd72
Saturday, February 20, 2016 3:31:02 PM
OMG!! A useful and helpful thread. I love it.

Any info from anyone on the Bradley, or masterbuilt? I have the XL egg,but would like an electric for the convenience also. I guess I was looking in the 4-6 range, hadn't realized they were into the 3k range.

Am I just wasting money on these varieties of electrics?

Sorry MACS, hope u don't mind. If it's any consolation, if the ones I'm looking at are a waste, I'm just gonna add a digiQ to the egg.

delta1
Saturday, February 20, 2016 3:55:02 PM
Take a look at the Cookshack electric smokers. Set it and forget it...no fuss barbecue...unless you like to physically check temps and fuel the whole time, then look elsewhere...
Plowboy221
Saturday, February 20, 2016 4:21:40 PM
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Saturday, February 20, 2016 4:33:10 PM
Yo Gerbs... the PBC package is only $299 with free shipping. What is the diameter on it? My WSM cannot fit a whole packer brisket, but the 22" could, no problem. Tell me it's 22" or more... Comes with:

1 30-Gallon/18-Gauge Steel Drum/Lid

8 Stainless Steel Hooks

2 Steel Hanging Rods

1 Charcoal Basket

1 Grill Grate

1 Wooden Hook Remover

1 Three-point Barrel stand

1 4.7oz All-Purpose Pit Rub

1 4.7oz Beef & Game Pit Rub

If it's 22 or more, I may just have found my next smoker. Follow up question... would my DigiQ work with the PBC?

sd72
Saturday, February 20, 2016 4:48:39 PM
17.5 inch grate
Thunder.Gerbil
Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:04:12 PM

Yo Gerbs... the PBC package is only $299 with free shipping. What is the diameter on it? My WSM cannot fit a whole packer brisket, but the 22" could, no problem. Tell me it's 22" or more... Comes with:

1 30-Gallon/18-Gauge Steel Drum/Lid

8 Stainless Steel Hooks

2 Steel Hanging Rods

1 Charcoal Basket

1 Grill Grate

1 Wooden Hook Remover

1 Three-point Barrel stand

1 4.7oz All-Purpose Pit Rub

1 4.7oz Beef & Game Pit Rub

If it's 22 or more, I may just have found my next smoker. Follow up question... would my DigiQ work with the PBC?

MACS wrote:

18" - it hangs the meat vertically, that's the beauty of it. Big capacity, small footprint. Meat cooks very evenly. You'd think it would burn or overcook at the bottom, but it doesn't. Has to do with the heat trapped at the top and the IR reflection.

No need for the DigiQ. It has a fixed air baffle. You set it based on your altitude, maybe tweak it a bit and after that, it never changes. If you load the coal basket according to directions and light it properly, it will be very repeatable time after time.

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Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:11:45 PM
I was just watching the videos. Odd. I didn't see him using any wood, just charcoal. You do put wood chunks on the fire, no?
Thunder.Gerbil
Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:21:37 PM
Shawn, I can't find the brisket pictures, but here are some racks of ribs from last Memorial day at a staff party:

http://i.imgur.com/ZmbgGr4.jpg 

http://i.imgur.com/kBQBJvB.jpg 

http://i.imgur.com/qF2j6iO.jpg 

About 3-1/2 hours cook time for 8 racks of BBRs.

If you purchase, I highly recommend the ash catcher accessory. Not mandatory, but makes clean up easier.

Thunder.Gerbil
Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:27:03 PM

I was just watching the videos. Odd. I didn't see him using any wood, just charcoal. You do put wood chunks on the fire, no?

MACS wrote:

Noah, the "inventor" and owner of the company, the guy in the videos, isn't really into heavy wood smoke. The PBC will make smoke on it's own from the drippings hitting the coals, and it will flavor the meat, but not the same way. Like you, I personally prefer some wood smoke. The PBC bottles everything up you have to go very light on the wood or you can easily oversmoke the heck out of the food. I'll put like 2-3 small-medium chunks, maybe at most a fist sized worth.

js of indy
Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:55:28 PM
just bought a traeger this past weekend at the boat, fishing and travel show. bought it on the recommendation of a few friends that swear by it. picking it up this week and hope to get it a shot this weekend