wulfman
8 years ago
again, white owners and black men? Oh yeah we kneel to pray or just is that just catholics? So the military stands as security to our foreign interests, how does that affect football and your patriotism? c'mon you guys its all good, puff away and compare incomes again why dontcha.
TMCTLT
8 years ago

again, white owners and black men? Oh yeah we kneel to pray or just is that just catholics? So the military stands as security to our foreign interests, how does that affect football and your patriotism? c'mon you guys its all good, puff away and compare incomes again why dontcha.

wulfman wrote:



So your gonna go and use a religion and it's parishioners as a comparison to overpaid SJW's???? Alrighty then!!!!
Maybe if they didn't for the most part all end up BROKE after earning multiple millions in some cases hundreds of millions....they TOO could be OWNERS. Life's all about the choices we make...ism't it??? 🌫
DrafterX
8 years ago
The NFL wrote rules and laid out punishment for not respecting the flag and anthem... Enforce them.. 😟
victor809
8 years ago

Excuse me for pointing out the obvious.

But Princess Vicki did type out the word "azzhole" TWICE himself.

You ask for consistency, take it from the azzhole who typed it describing himself. Regardless of the PC label he tries to put on it. Once an azzhole, always an azzhole. Regardless of what he smokes or how he tries to justify it.

Have a great day! Back to your regularly scheduled program.

cacman wrote:



What is this word salad? I have no idea what you're trying to say amelia...
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8 years ago



1. again, white owners and black men?
2. Oh yeah we kneel to pray or just is that just catholics?
3. So the military stands as security to our foreign interests, how does that affect football and your patriotism?
4. c'mon you guys its all good, puff away and compare incomes again why dontcha.

wulfman wrote:



I'm trying to understand your logic here... I see no no logical correlation between the first 3 questions (at least I think they're questions). So the only conclusion I can come up with is that you are saying "comparing incomes with each other" is the only rational answer to each question.

:/
wulfman
8 years ago
OK, I get it, you all are upset at kneeling for the flag and feel it is disrespectful of the US military and veterans. I also understand that an employer has standards that they lay out to guide or govern the whole.

You fellas are bringing all the emotions into this. All the my daddy or pappy was a (fill in the blank) and your supposed to shut up and go along with this--cause its always been done this way.

Its Football. Im just seeing holes in the conversations about men getting amounts of money that some feel they do not deserve. Like capitalism and the American Way is thrown out the window when it comes to football players. What happened to get all you can, if you can? Also, what happened to the American spirit of "you can't tell me what to"?

Ewok126
8 years ago

OK, I get it, you all are upset at kneeling for the flag and feel it is disrespectful of the US military and veterans. I also understand that an employer has standards that they lay out to guide or govern the whole.

You fellas are bringing all the emotions into this. All the my daddy or pappy was a (fill in the blank) and your supposed to shut up and go along with this--cause its always been done this way.

Its Football. Im just seeing holes in the conversations about men getting amounts of money that some feel they do not deserve. Like capitalism and the American Way is thrown out the window when it comes to football players. What happened to get all you can, if you can? Also, what happened to the American spirit of "you can't tell me what to"?

wulfman wrote:




Of course most are upset and do feel it is very disrespectful. In my opinion "disrespectful" is putting it very mildly. It is dishonorable, degrading, in my eyes it would be the same as pissing on a mothers grave. When you say "Bringing all emotions into this" again of course we are. With out the emotion or feelings if you will. The flag would have never been made. It is the emotion and feelings that is the backbone of its creation. With out that then why have a flag, for that matter why have a wedding ring, why have an anniversary, why read the Bible. I think it is because of the emotions and feelings of what it is suppose to represent.

When you stated "the conversations about men getting amounts of money that some feel they do not deserve" I firmly believe you do not bite the hand that feeds you.

When you say "What happened to get all you can, if you can?" does that include pissing on those that do care, that feel a group of people are pissing on the grave and are biting the hand that feeds them?

You stated what happened to the American spirit of "you can't tell me what to"? well that is still there or this would have stopped along time ago. But, one also has to commune with the community if they expect to go far or be accepted by the community as a whole. The community as a whole still does not think it is ok to disrespect, dishonor, piss on tradition because of the emotion and feelings that are the backbone of such.

Now with that said, I am not trying to take away from what the protest or "Keeling" is suppose to represent. I do understand what they are trying to say BUT i will say they chose the wrong platform or "soap box" to make that stand. In my mind they chose degrade something sacred to the majority in the US to make their point. Once that happened then in my mind and personal feelings they do not deserve my attention to even look at or even consider what their point is.

I guess what I am trying to say is this. I do not need to come to one of your loved ones grave piss on it, dishonor it or you to just get your attention so you will see my point or protest. I would hope that in the very very least if I should do that, you would at MINIMUM not even give my point a valid consideration. Why I would think this is because well I assume you have emotion that would come into it yes? Why well because with out that emotion or feeling there would be no grave yes?
shaun341
8 years ago
Here is the problem with what they are doing. In order to make their voice heard they are doing something that is so controversial it divides people. Now if they truly believed in equality they would not voice their opinion in a way that forces division but should try to unite people. That is common though with people and fads which is exactly what this has become now and a fad has no meaning to it.

Being that these athletes have the opportunity to speak to the media constantly there were many other ways that they could have went about this if they felt deeply and honestly about this issue. Instead they chose the absolute worst way to do it and then try to force it down the public's throat that they are being oppressed. Oppression does not include stupidity and that is what every single one of those kneelers are...just plain dumb. The message is lost and the players look like ungrateful fools, so where did this get them?

You want to make a difference then put your money (which most have plenty of it) where your mouth is instead of forcing issues that make you look like you want to play the victim. That is one thing I will give Kaepernick credit for, the guy is putting some real life work into what he believes in and not just saying words without any backing to them. These players have money and access to being a voice that the nation can hear, why do it in such a way that divides instead of unites?

Brewha
8 years ago
Dissent is patriotic.
I guess a lot of folks here grapple with that, and with what freedom really is.




On a lighter note. The Dallas Cowboys owner has threatened to fire players who kneel.
So, even in 2017 we are talking about a white owner telling his boys how to behave on the field.
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago
If they really want to make a statement then they should (those too weak to stand!) drop to both knees like their leader and beg for their jobs!


The NFL is done with this clown running it and the caliber of players in the game now. Its a game, not a platform to ram whatever you want down the public's throat. It's no wonder why people are turning their backs at the game in droves. They've pussified the game to the point that you can't make a hit on somebody or celebrate a touchdown! The refs interject the game with bad calls and that used to be what fans griped about. Look at the dumpster fire now created by one guy that is an idiot for listening to his racist girlfriend. =d> =d> =d>
MACS
8 years ago

Dissent is patriotic.
I guess a lot of folks here grapple with that, and with what freedom really is.




On a lighter note. The Dallas Cowboys owner has threatened to fire players who kneel.
So, even in 2017 we are talking about a white owner telling his boys how to behave on the field.

Brewha wrote:



You and Michael Bennett... comparing being paid MILLIONS to play a GAME to slavery.

Have you any idea how ridiculously stupid that is? They have the freedom to walk away from those millions. I won't hold my breath.
SteveS
8 years ago

The Dallas Cowboys owner has threatened to fire players who kneel.
So, even in 2017 we are talking about a white owner telling his boys how to behave on the field.

Brewha wrote:



He did not threaten to fire them ... he clearly did say those who knelt wouldn't play ...

oh, and if you have a job where you don't have to be even slightly concerned about instructions from your boss, you have a very unusual job ... irrespective of whether your boss is white, green, purple or blue ...
shaun341
8 years ago

He did not threaten to fire them ... he clearly did say those who knelt wouldn't play ...

oh, and if you have a job where you don't have to be even slightly concerned about instructions from your boss, you have a very unusual job ... irrespective of whether your boss is white, green, purple or blue ...

SteveS wrote:




Exactly!!!!! While people want to turn this into a race issue the government is laughing their way to the bank. We have morons complaining about slavery when I never meant a person living today that owned a slave. In the meantime we spend our days arguing about what race is in control the top 1% keep wages at a minimum and keep on segregating themselves from the middle and lower income households.

Stop with the racial tones and start looking at it as we are on the same side for a change!
Brewha
8 years ago

You and Michael Bennett... comparing being paid MILLIONS to play a GAME to slavery.

Have you any idea how ridiculously stupid that is? They have the freedom to walk away from those millions. I won't hold my breath.

MACS wrote:


MACS, the phase “on the lighter side” means something to lighten up about, irony, levity.....

If you weren’t so fast with the indignation would would have appreciated that irony can in fact be pretty ironic....
Brewha
8 years ago

He did not threaten to fire them ... he clearly did say those who knelt wouldn't play ...

oh, and if you have a job where you don't have to be even slightly concerned about instructions from your boss, you have a very unusual job ... irrespective of whether your boss is white, green, purple or blue ...

SteveS wrote:


True, true.....do wat da man say, or youes mights get a wippin’.


At least they had the nerve to take a stand for what they believe.
(Ok, that was not phrased well....)
Brewha
8 years ago

Exactly!!!!! While people want to turn this into a race issue the government is laughing their way to the bank. We have morons complaining about slavery when I never meant a person living today that owned a slave. In the meantime we spend our days arguing about what race is in control the top 1% keep wages at a minimum and keep on segregating themselves from the middle and lower income households.

Stop with the racial tones and start looking at it as we are on the same side for a change!

shaun341 wrote:


Dude, it is a race issue. They are kneeling because blacks are getting killed too often by the police.

The reason they were kneeling - it really did not matter to you, did it?
MACS
8 years ago

Dude, it is a race issue. They are kneeling because blacks are getting killed too often by the police.

The reason they were kneeling - it really did not matter to you, did it?

Brewha wrote:



But a Harvard study by a black professor showed ZERO difference in the use of deadly force when it came to blacks.

I think for most people it isn't the protest that's the issue... it's how they're doing it, and the fact what they think they are protesting is bullshit.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/main-july_2016.pdf 
Brewha
8 years ago

If they really want to make a statement then they should (those too weak to stand!) drop to both knees like their leader and beg for their jobs!


The NFL is done with this clown running it and the caliber of players in the game now. Its a game, not a platform to ram whatever you want down the public's throat. It's no wonder why people are turning their backs at the game in droves. They've pussified the game to the point that you can't make a hit on somebody or celebrate a touchdown! The refs interject the game with bad calls and that used to be what fans griped about. Look at the dumpster fire now created by one guy that is an idiot for listening to his racist girlfriend. =d> =d> =d>

DrMaddVibe wrote:


Maybe we should just ditch the NFL and bring back American Gladiator.

Zap was kinda hot.....
Brewha
8 years ago

But a Harvard study by a black professor showed ZERO difference in the use of deadly force when it came to blacks.

I think for most people it isn't the protest that's the issue... it's how they're doing it, and the fact what they think they are protesting is bullshit.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/main-july_2016.pdf 

MACS wrote:


MACS!!!! You have done it!

Just send that link to the Black Live Matter movment, and you guys can have the NFL back!!!
MACS
8 years ago
I'm sure they've already seen it, and called the author an uncle tom.

It doesn't fit their narrative, so why would they pay it any attention? Why... I'll bet you didn't even bother reading it. You can't refute it, so why bother, right? Lets just make jokes because ya got nothing else.

Nothing.
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