Brewha
8 years ago

I'm sure they've already seen it, and called the author an uncle tom.

It doesn't fit their narrative, so why would they pay it any attention? Why... I'll bet you didn't even bother reading it. You can't refute it, so why bother, right? Lets just make jokes because ya got nothing else.

Nothing.

MACS wrote:


Wait - aren't you one of the guys that don’t believe in climate change caused by industrial pollution even when NASA says so? Did not fit your narrative, right?


A lot of people feel there is an issue, and they are speaking out. A demand of patriotism. Bully for them....
MACS
8 years ago
😂 Change the subject, eh?

There are studies on both sides of the climate issue. You got a conflicting study on this issue?
victor809
8 years ago
It's actually an interesting study brew. It's a long read, but has more information than many so far.

It does say there are an equal number of deaths for blacks. But it does also say there are a larger number of negative interactions for blacks.

Worth reading... the higher number of negative interactions could theoretically lead to the perception of higher deaths.

It does not go into the repercussions police get when killing an unarmed black vs a white, which is part of the protests. But the study is worth reading.

Just because the other side refuses to believe valid science on climate change in favor for bull**** is no reason to act the same.
Brewha
8 years ago
I bring up climate change because it is a nothworthy example of people not believing things that do not suit their narrative.


But -

I think people speaking out about injustice, perceived or real, in honorable and should be respected. It is what America is purportedly about.

And just to be clear, MACS, this BLM is a bull sh1t issue to you, right?
At least in comparison to the vaunted NFL.
RMAN4443
8 years ago

True, true.....do wat da man say, or youes mights get a wippin’.


At least they had the nerve to take a stand for what they believe.
(Ok, that was not phrased well....)

Brewha wrote:


Pretty sure they outlawed "wippen's" and slavery quite some time ago......

Pretty sure they call it assault and battery,kidnapping,and have made them hate crimes nowadays[-(
Brewha
8 years ago

Pretty sure they outlawed "wippen's" and slavery quite some time ago......

Pretty sure they call it assault and battery,kidnapping,and have made them hate crimes nowadays[-(

RMAN4443 wrote:


True, true...

But you sure can get you a financial wippin’.



I prolly shouldn’t use to many metaphors, should I?
shaun341
8 years ago

Dude, it is a race issue. They are kneeling because blacks are getting killed too often by the police.

The reason they were kneeling - it really did not matter to you, did it?

Brewha wrote:




You are wrong for starters because it is about oppression and only a couple have even mentioned the cop angle. Oppression is not a race thing (even though people want it to be) at all it is a poor thing, look up the statistics on crime areas. The poorer the area the more crime because people will do whatever when they don't care anymore and it snowballs from there. Oppression is about wages but people that do not understand that make it a race thing. I live in a poor area and it is probably 75% white and we struggle as a community to stay afloat (drugs have nearly taken over the area to the point even school teachers and lawyers are using) so oppression is not a black or white thing but a wages thing!
fishinguitarman
8 years ago
DrafterX
8 years ago
Do you think Kaperdick woulda taken a knee if he was a starting QB... I kinda doubt it... He was protesting something else.. 😟
SteveS
8 years ago

Do you think Kaperdick woulda taken a knee if he was a starting QB... I kinda doubt it... He was protesting something else..

DrafterX wrote:



he didn't "take a knee" the first time ... he was slouched on a corner of the bench ... the general impression at the time was that he was depressed over being benched ... later, after reporters began questioning him over why he wasn't standing for the anthem, he seemed confused at first, then eventually came up with the oppressed black story ...

this last spring, after not finding himself to be a hot property in free agency as he imagined he was going to be, he made an announcement that he would be standing for the anthem now, since his original objectives had been achieved ... now that he still can't get a job, he's suing the league for conspiracy to deny him a job ...

well, no one has accused him of being overly bright and his behavior from he beginning has done nothing to dispel that notion should it somehow occur to someone ...
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

It's actually an interesting study brew. It's a long read, but has more information than many so far.

It does say there are an equal number of deaths for blacks. But it does also say there are a larger number of negative interactions for blacks.

Worth reading... the higher number of negative interactions could theoretically lead to the perception of higher deaths.

It does not go into the repercussions police get when killing an unarmed black vs a white, which is part of the protests. But the study is worth reading.

Just because the other side refuses to believe valid science on climate change in favor for bull**** is no reason to act the same.

victor809 wrote:




Everyone forgets the black hobos
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

he didn't "take a knee" the first time ... he was slouched on a corner of the bench ... the general impression at the time was that he was depressed over being benched ... later, after reporters began questioning him over why he wasn't standing for the anthem, he seemed confused at first, then eventually came up with the oppressed black story ...

this last spring, after not finding himself to be a hot property in free agency as he imagined he was going to be, he made an announcement that he would be standing for the anthem now, since his original objectives had been achieved ... now that he still can't get a job, he's suing the league for conspiracy to deny him a job ...

well, no one has accused him of being overly bright and his behavior from he beginning has done nothing to dispel that notion should it somehow occur to someone ...

SteveS wrote:




Let's not forget the pigs wearing police hats socks he was wearing as well.
dstieger
8 years ago
I always stand, remove my hat and put my hand over my heart during the anthem...well not usually at home or in the car...but when in public and others might judge. It has saddened me somewhat over the years to see more and more people at sporting events sitting or talking through the anthem. I felt that Trump made a huge mistake by taking this on publicly and turned it into a vitriolic conversation in which both sides talk past each other and few listen to opposing views. If there's a group protesting something without much thought or direction, it generally goes away very quickly if ignored.

But, now I watch games and everybody in the stands is standing and attentive during the anthem. (Sure, some are attentively looking to see if there's kneeling players and not necessarily attentive to the flag and music.) I don't much care what any of the players do or don't do. But, I gotta admit that for people other than players, the resulting actions seem positive...hopefully not too temporary.
DrafterX
8 years ago

I always stand, remove my hat and put my hand over my heart during the anthem...well not usually at home or in the car...but when in public and others might judge. .

dstieger wrote:



😟
tailgater
8 years ago

Wait - aren't you one of the guys that don’t believe in climate change caused by industrial pollution even when NASA says so? Did not fit your narrative, right?


A lot of people feel there is an issue, and they are speaking out. A demand of patriotism. Bully for them....

Brewha wrote:



A lot of people "feel" there is an issue because they WANT there to be an issue.
Hell, they NEED there to be an issue.



Brewha
8 years ago

You are wrong for starters because it is about oppression and only a couple have even mentioned the cop angle. Oppression is not a race thing (even though people want it to be) at all it is a poor thing, look up the statistics on crime areas. The poorer the area the more crime because people will do whatever when they don't care anymore and it snowballs from there. Oppression is about wages but people that do not understand that make it a race thing. I live in a poor area and it is probably 75% white and we struggle as a community to stay afloat (drugs have nearly taken over the area to the point even school teachers and lawyers are using) so oppression is not a black or white thing but a wages thing!

shaun341 wrote:


So.....they are kneeling because they want more money? 😕
DrafterX
8 years ago
Show Me da Money..!! 😠
Brewha
8 years ago
Maybe they are just kneeling to save energy before the game....



Or maybe someone dropped a twenty.....
wulfman
8 years ago
So the solution for all that are not involved, play or own NFL teams....is to not watch. I mean football is on its way out anyway. it won't be a high school sport in the near future. It's like BEEF, you spend way too much on help, food, land, and water to raise a cow. Its like taking a bite out of hamburger and throwing it away...well thats the beef industry.
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

So the solution for all that are not involved, play or own NFL teams....is to not watch. I mean football is on its way out anyway. it won't be a high school sport in the near future. It's like BEEF, you spend way too much on help, food, land, and water to raise a cow. Its like taking a bite out of hamburger and throwing it away...well thats the beef industry.

wulfman wrote:




Good analogy.

Except the NFL is killing itself on the sidelines before it even gets to the pasture!
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