I don't disagree with that point, steve...I like cigars covered with Ecuadoran Habano wrappers, and they are not all the same...I'm sure that the blend of binders and fillers contribute to that, along with the place where the leaf was grown and the aging and fermentation the wrapper went through...

Mine are moist

According to the questions asked and answered, 1920 is way off.

Alex, I'll take how old is Brett for $ 1,000.

Who put the superglue on Frank's lip balm ?

mmm hmm mmhmm!

Thanks everyone for the great advice and good reading material!

I had every intention of steering clear of the wrapper debate above....but couldn't do it....

Here's my .02:
1. As to overall contribution to flavor....it depends.
- It depends on the ring gauge to a very large degree --- smaller rg means more wrapper -- fairly simple geometry - more wrapper in relation to filler and binder, means more impact on overall flavor.
- It depends on where on the tobacco plant the wrapper is cut from and it depends on the level of fermentation, e.g., milder wrapper with a bunch of ligero filler may not have as much 'influence'

2. Focus on wrapper as factor to thin the herd and narrow search to cigars I like is a no-brainer. Makers are mostly up-front about their wrappers - where they are grown and what seed is used....not always, but somewhat. That is NOT the case when it comes to binder and filler -- I believe makers get off on the 'mystery' around what's in their cigars....not all, of course, but many.

3. Maybe mostly for the reasons above, I can pretty unequivocally 'know' whether a cigar will fall into the OK, I'll try that again....or, no fn way I'm gonna like that -- based upon the wrapper. I've almost enjoyed exactly one cigar with a San Andres maduro wrapper....and I've correctly identified and discarded numerous others without prior knowledge. Then again, a maker can roll up some Nicaraguan hay inside a properly fermented Ecuadoran Habano wrapper and there's a good chance that I'll enjoy it


So, with respect to the debaters above, I find it is easiest to suggest a noob put some of their attention on wrappers early on as they find their way

The Cello? :-"

Ha! 1920 is a just smidge off. I just turned 36, but I do have an "old soul", to be cliche. Mama raised a proper Southern gentleman.