(Skips political blame-game posts, waits for more experimental data, both lower-quality exigent-circumstances data now, and high-quality controlled data later).

Pudding Mittens wrote:

Sure. That is all true.
Trump is an ego maniac, sideshow carnival barker who has little class or professional presence. He's a manchild.
Obama, the elite, dazzling urbanite- the most polished president I can recall dove (not stepped) into the slop with him.

We are all now poorer for the decisions these men made.

8trackdisco wrote:

that sets up a double standard trap, where the dirty scoundrel is free to ravage a principled man, who because he's supposedly principled, is precluded from defending himself...

that's not representative of American ideals...scoundrels are usually brought to justice, not elevated to highest office

delta1 wrote:

We are all responsible for our own actions.

teedubbya wrote:

There's enough blame to go around.

tonygraz wrote:

were you serious about Trump's actions being Obama's fault?

delta1 wrote:

so let me get this straight.

Trump spends a couple years claiming obama wasn't born in the US, faked his birth certificate etc... making a huge ruckus over the whole thing....
Obama takes one night to make fun of the guy who's spent a couple years engaged in a racist campaign against him...
And we're saying Obama is to blame for that idiot becoming president and trying to tear down everything obama was involved in? Even partially?

That's....insane. And enough irony (that it's coming from the "party of personal responsibility") to kill a mime.

hell. the people really to blame in this case would be the people who voted for someone who's entire goal was to become president and destroy everything obama created because he was mean to him one night.... Seems like they're the ones who enabled this child to go and kick the sandcastle down.

victor809 wrote:

This is when it's good to know 8track on a personal level...

MACS wrote:

are there any more adults left in the con bus...seems all the bright ones left when Trump got on...

delta1 wrote:

This is when it's good to know 8track on a personal level...

MACS wrote:

your vouching for him is good enough for me...looking forward to the day when we can kick back and enjoy a cigar and beverage and talk story, not politics

delta1 wrote:

I would vouch for you and Frank, too... and you're commie pinko libtards. 😂

This whole leftie/rightie thing doesn't mean much when you sit and talk, enjoy a cigar and a smoke, and get to know one another on a personal level. We mostly agree on things we disagree on (if that makes sense)... with different ideas on how to attain the American dream.

Add in completely different life experiences and you can see why our minds work differently to reach the same conclusion. I think we've forgotten how to discuss ideas and now just talk AT each other.

MACS wrote: