A while back I posted that states that didn't open properly, cautiously were going to see non linear curves of increases in COVID 19 cases. Someone who didn't like that answer pushed back and asked what type of curves. I answered exponential and was mostly not believed. Look at the curves for Texas, Arizona, Florida, and California. They are the begginings of exponential curves. More than 1/2 of our states are seeing increases in COVID 19. I really haven't looked at the others to see if they are exponential or not. I put this in politics because most of you will see this as political. It is not. Wake up! The numbers are real and don't lie. I do not profess to be an expert in this field. TW is, my expertise is elsewhere as I have stated. This isn't ending anytime soon, in fact it has barely begun.

Gloom, despair and Agony on me... 😟

Dude, I suspect your state is going exponential as well. As an older overweight smoker you are in a high risk group. I know you are laughing the majority of the time. Do what you will of course. But maybe take a look at the numbers?

at least wear a mask, Drafter whenever you're out in public and encountering other people, and especially if you go inside a building with a bunch of other people...

have there been any cases of human to puppy dog transmission?

Not that anyone will admit.

Well, as long as Tony went there. Delta, wearing a mask won't stop Drafter from puppy dog transmission. Well, maybe depending on where he wears it.

We’re fine in California. We had a lot of protests, riots, and looting and that scared off the ‘Rona. Most of our spike was caused by a birthday party in West Covina.

Everybody was kungflu fighting
Those protesters were fast as lightning
Looking at DrafterX without a mask is mighty frightening

Actually, yes and to different zoo animals IIRC.

Florida had 5,500 new cases yesterday.

Our governor is an idiot. He closed too late and is opening too fast.

Phased lifting of restrictions on people and businesses appears to have lured people into a sense of false comfort. So many people are not wearing masks and practicing social distancing.
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Robert, stay safe. Your whole darned state is a hot spot. Unfortunately your governor is what he is. Has your mayor enacted masking orders like Miami has?

Orlando/Orange County made masks required in public again. My county, Seminole County, is still a small county that moves very slowly. We have had several hot-spots within one mile of where I live.

Nationwide we're starting to see a fun upward swing in infections. I don't even know if I would call this a second peak, since it's really the infection hitting parts of the country it hadn't gotten to in the initial wave.

Everyone who holed up and reduced their immunity are now mingling with the general populous.
The increase is no more surprising than that resulting from increased testing.

"reduced their immunity"?

You know this is a binary function, right?

And people in Texas aren't just now mingling with people from NYC. It is starting to spread in N Carolina/S Carolina, Georgia.. it's spiking in Florida... Arizona was #4 in new cases yesterday. Texas was #1. New York was #12 in new cases.

What we're seeing is the actual spread of the virus, minus areas that remain shut down (like NYC). We did such a piss poor attempt at our shutdown that we didn't really gain much other than a few months, at the cost of billions.

So now I suppose we can expect to just all get infected.

Here in Texas - Governor "Hot Wheels" is working to out stupid Trump.
As our infection rate explodes he refuse to require masks.

And "recommending" that Texans stay home and wear mask when they go out is like telling the not to drink on a Friday night.

As a footnote; the CDC and other identify the infection rate between someone who is infected and someone who is not at 1.5% - IF THEY BOTH WEAR A MASK.








Footnote 2 - they are holding the legendary Ft. Worth Gun Show this weekend.
Cause stupid is as stupid does....

so many states responded to those on the right who demanded to be free of imposed lockdowns...many are now suffering from dramatic increases in positive cases and seriously ill patients filling up their ICU's to near capacity...

CA's Gov. Newsome bent to political pressure and relaxed his stay-at-home orders, and put out a phased in plan for re-opening, despite L.A.County being a serious hot-spot...many conservative counties didn't heed the phased in part of the plan and re-opened most businesses without implementing safety guidelines, and are now experiencing dramatic increases in positive tests...hope that doesn't mean a higher death rate in a couple of weeks


and Nero/Trump continues to fiddle

I prefer wearing a mask over wearing a ventilator so I choose to wear a mask. The highest level of testing has occurred in New York state. Yet their curve is in decline. Illinois has aggressively tested yet their number is in decline. Immunity appears to be short term, though there are no reports yet that have proper study protocols. And of course no peer review. I had antibodies, I no longer do.

Here in the Bay Area most of the population of Oakland are now infected because of recent celebratory street parties that were encouraged by Governor Newsom and the Democrats while Republicans stayed home and sheltered in place.

They’re sending the US Navy hospital ship to Bakersfield because the outbreak is so bad there.

Most of the conservative counties will be all dead in three weeks and this will increase the death toll by 25 people.

This thing is closely following predictable models given how you change variables. It's really weird in this regard. It's really not that difficult to predict what it will do given certain actions. It really is vanilla in the context of how these things usually work. There is a concerted effort to blur this fact.

The mantra that more testing = more cases is one of those grain of truth statements that can then be twisted to mean something it doesn't. Well if this is true than that must be true too. It's absolute BS. It's one of those situations if folks cant understand the complexities of how this works in less than 30 seconds then it must be false and the folks studying these sorts of things all their lives must just be trying to trick us because they hate America and the economy. Those "experts" are bad and just trying to scare us... luckily we know more than them. (it builds off the as you increase police presence you increase crime.... you must...there are more arrests etc.)

A surge in testing may have an immediate uptick in identified cases (not cases, they are already there...because they are already there) but it would be very short term and the results will end up in a decline in most situations for a lot of reasons. It is why you test. It is also a factor that can and is factored in to modeling which is conveniently ignored by the cable news educated experts with their heads in the sand (ok not really that would be safer than where their heads really are).

There are a lot of other things to look at like ratio of infected to tested, hospitalizations, deaths (the last thing to look at real time due to lag in reporting) etc. Many MANY other things to look at. Much of the talk by folks thinking they understand how this is reported, what the numbers mean etc. is complete and utter garbage to anyone who works with them or understands them well.

And yes masks help. They really do. There isn't much question about it and if you are an anti masker you march beside anti vaxers, flat earthers, 911 deniers and birthers. It's your right to be uninformed though. And I don't care what the folks on the angle that claim masks actually get you sicker or do nothing say. They are idiots.