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Palama
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5 years ago

One of the all-time greats.

https://www.mlb.com/news/bob-gibson-dies-at-84

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ZRX1200
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5 years ago

He was a damn man.

KingoftheCove
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5 years ago

He threw high and tight...........a lot.
Nobody was going “take away” any part of the plate from him..........ever.

Burner02
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5 years ago

Damn, I missed the news on another one of my all time favorite Cards.

RIP BG.

Burner02
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5 years ago

He threw high and tight...........a lot.
Nobody was going “take away” any part of the plate from him..........ever.

KingoftheCove wrote:

+1

He gave many batters a close shave!

frankj1
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5 years ago

the guy I'd want on the hill in the biggest game...with Koufax a very close second.
Gibson was a huge part of my love for baseball.

Smooth light
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5 years ago

Steve Carlton let see if they can hit that slider.

frankj1
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5 years ago

Gibson, post season
7-2 1.89 ERA

Smooth light
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5 years ago

You got a good reason for the season and the time of the year. Steve Carlton carried the whole franchise for years buy and sell.

That high leg kick was poetry in motion.

frankj1
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5 years ago

#10

You got a good reason for the season and the time of the year. Steve Carlton carried the whole franchise for years buy and sell.

That high leg kick was poetry in motion.

Smooth light wrote:

got no problem with Carlton. Nearly won 30 for a horrible team.
Not quite as killer in the post season but still pretty good.

I remember Gibson beating Jose Santiago of the Red Sox 2-1 in the '67 series.
Even hit a home run.
Lots of guys have compiled great stats and most are super competitors, but for my money Gibson was arguably the fiercest competitor I have had the pleasure of watching.

Just one man's opinion, of course.

Palama
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5 years ago

#11

Gibson, post season
7-2 1.89 ERA

frankj1 wrote:

And for anyone thinking “What? He only won 7 post-season games?”, well, remember, there were no Wildcard, Divisional or League Champtionship series to build stats on. You either won the pennant and played in the WS or you sucked thumb and went home after the regular season.

From 1964 to 1968, the Cardinals appeared in 3 World Series and won 2 of them. Gibby started 3 games in each Series. He lost his first start in ‘64 then won 7 straight until the Game 7 loss to Denny McLain in ‘68.

frankj1
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5 years ago

#12

Palama wrote:

think it was Lolich.
Remember Curt Flood falling in center or something that impacted the result, but the Cards just couldn't get the offense going that day.

Smooth light
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5 years ago

#13

Yeah I remember that game, Philly tried to get him the next season, they couldn't pay him enough to play for loser's.
The city of love, love to hate everyone equality.
Got what coming to them😛.

Card's are always good!!... he sure could pound the rock ⚾.

Palama
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5 years ago

#14

think it was Lolich.
Remember Curt Flood falling in center or something that impacted the result, but the Cards just couldn't get the offense going that day.

frankj1 wrote:

Memory like a steel trap!

Of course Frankie is correct.

I had PE that morning but the teacher wanted to listen to the game so he gave a short lecture on health and safety and then we sat in the classroom dressed in our shorts and t-shirts and listened to the game. Didn’t find out that the Cards lost until school was done.

delta1
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5 years ago

#15

he had a season in 1968 that was arguably the greatest of any pitcher all-time: ERA 1.12, over 304 innings, 28 complete games, 13 shut-outs...cartoonish numbers compared to what pitchers are doing today.

MLB lowered the mound from 15" to 10" the year after this amazing performance to reduce the "advantage" enjoyed by pitchers...

I would still take Sandy Koufax if I had to win game 7 of a World Series, but I'm a lifelong Dodgers fan...

GO Dodgers!!!

frankj1
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5 years ago

#16

delta1 wrote:

better hope it's not on Yom Kippur.

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Smooth light
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5 years ago

#17

Lowering the mound sounds like widening the lane in B-ball cause of Wilt Chamberlain.

Palama
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5 years ago

#18

delta1 wrote:

Not sure if it was only Gibson’s dominance that motivated MLB to change the mound height after 18 years at that standardized height but if it was, that sucked for Gibby.

delta1
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5 years ago

#19

not just him, but pitching had become dominant in MLB that year, highlighted by Gibby's ultra-low ERA...

Denny McLain won 31 games and had a 1.96 ERA

AL batting average .230: NL batting average .243

https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/denny-mcclain-bob-gibson-1968-year-of-the-pitcher-1.17683171

Palama
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5 years ago

#20

delta1 wrote:

I haven’t read the article yet but basically here’s my beef:

After 17 years of the same mound height, pitchers figured out how to pitch better (...oversimplification...) but instead of seeing if hitters could overcome the pitching dominance, MLB decides to significantly lower the PM? Although I’m a terrible baseball player, I always loved the mano a mano challenge and would think major league batters could have figured out what to do without any “help”.

If pitchers continued to dominate after ‘68 then maybe I could see a call for change but c’mon man, there’s a reason why they’re professionals.

But, that’s just me.

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

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