delta1
a year ago
there will be investigations and lawsuits after the burning ends....but plenty of finger pointing until then...

meanwhile, nearly 200,000 people were rendered homeless by the blaze, some losing their home and their business...



Here's a link to several charities that are helping people in need after suffering losses due to the L.A. fires...

https://www.charitynavigator.org/discover-charities/where-to-give/palisades-fire-2025/#charity_list 
ZRX1200
a year ago
Yeah we had an “investigation” here too……we never got any answers as to three separate hot spots, why the Emergency Broadcast System wasn’t initiated and only used the Everbridge app (yes cell service was largely DOWN).

Not politucs for me and fire it’s personal.
JGKAMIN
a year ago

there will be investigations and lawsuits after the burning ends....but plenty of finger pointing until then...

meanwhile, nearly 200,000 people were rendered homeless by the blaze, some losing their home and their business...



Here's a link to several charities that are helping people in need after suffering losses due to the L.A. fires...

https://www.charitynavigator.org/discover-charities/where-to-give/palisades-fire-2025/#charity_list 

delta1 wrote:


Hopefully we find out more than we did of the Maui fires.
Gene363
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a year ago
Meanwhile, the North Carolina flood homeless are still living in tents. It's a cruel world, at least some of them were still in hotels funded by FEMA to hear Biden promise 100% support to the LA fire devastation, before they were evicted.

Rest assured, someplace the Feds will spend yet more borrowed billions to rebuild. They know what they are doing, it's not like they spent many billions rebuilding another flooded city located on a coast and below sea level. 😣

I really do feel bad for people that lost their homes in LA. However, they chose to believe all the BS their elected officials fed them, now they don't want to live with the consequences.
ZRX1200
a year ago
Yeah ^ another bastion of transparency by a bureaucracy
delta1
a year ago
seems we can't get disaster right anywhere, red or blue states, in the richest country of the world: government ineptitude, insurance/banking industry shenanigans, money-grabbing opportunists, price gouging small capitalists...

how long ago was Katrina?
Palama
a year ago

seems we can't get disaster right anywhere, red or blue states, in the richest country of the world: government ineptitude, insurance/banking industry shenanigans, money-grabbing opportunists, price gouging small capitalists...

how long ago was Katrina?

delta1 wrote:



Twenty years. Man, time flies!

We had just settled our son into his Freshman dorm at UNLV a couple weeks earlier so the year and the devastation are purdy much etched in my mind.
Gene363
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a year ago

seems we can't get disaster right anywhere, red or blue states, in the richest country of the world: government ineptitude, insurance/banking industry shenanigans, money-grabbing opportunists, price gouging small capitalists...

how long ago was Katrina?

delta1 wrote:



Sad and true. Katrina was 2005, sigh...

There is a brighter side for North Carolina/East Tennessee, local folks/construction companies and people from other states*, showed up to rebuild roads/bridges, bring/build temporary/permeant homes/shelters, distribute relief goods and find bodies still lost in the mud and debris. It's still not enough, but it is something, the Asheville hippies/yuppies and the local hillbillies are working to overcome.

* Including The Cajun Navy from Louisiana, the Amish and Mennonites, Samaritan's Purse and others, as well as many individuals from all over the country.

The dark side, various government agencies sometimes did their best to keep them from helping.
Mr. Jones
a year ago
AREN'T the FIRES OUT YET?
Gene363
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a year ago

AREN'T the FIRES OUT YET?

Mr. Jones wrote:



That is just the beginning.

Experts say it'll take between 20-40 years to rebuild Los Angeles — It's because of their regulations. In LA you need not only a building permit, but a

- Grading permit
- Foundation permit
- Electrical permit
- Plumbing permit
- Mechanical permit
- A demolition permit
- An encroachment permit
- The fire department needs to give you a permit
- If you have a septic tank, you need a permit for that
- You need a water and sewer connection permit
- You have to have an energy compliance permit
- An environmental permit
- Zoning permits
- Of course, if you remove any trees, you're gonna need a tree removal permit
- If you put solar panels, you need a solar panel permit
- You need any kind of specialty permits for swimming pools or retaining walls

and of course, you're gonna need your certificate of occupancy”

Mr. Jones
a year ago
Wow...that's a lot of permits!
Mr. Jones
a year ago
Then there are the land speculators...
Buying land cheap when all the regulations Stiemy all the victims / they just take the insurance $$$ and leave town and environmentalist want high density, high rise condos were single unit homes used to be...
puffymcpufferson
a year ago
We still have a lot of starving children in this country. Better take interest in the extremely wealthy suffering a fire....even though they were warned about sustainable brush clearing/burning 35 years ago by NFS Fire. Then continued to build with no brush or abatement plan.

Thank you Mr. Spock.
puffymcpufferson
a year ago

That is just the beginning.

Experts say it'll take between 20-40 years to rebuild Los Angeles — It's because of their regulations. In LA you need not only a building permit, but a

- Grading permit
- Foundation permit
- Electrical permit
- Plumbing permit
- Mechanical permit
- A demolition permit
- An encroachment permit
- The fire department needs to give you a permit
- If you have a septic tank, you need a permit for that
- You need a water and sewer connection permit
- You have to have an energy compliance permit
- An environmental permit
- Zoning permits
- Of course, if you remove any trees, you're gonna need a tree removal permit
- If you put solar panels, you need a solar panel permit
- You need any kind of specialty permits for swimming pools or retaining walls

and of course, you're gonna need your certificate of occupancy”

Gene363 wrote:




Last time I did construction in LA county was 2011. All of those permits and the taxes for roadways and schools on 1,600 sq ft house was ~$583,000. That's just permits and tax. I feel sooo sorry for all that money. Opulence is disgusting, unless it's a My Father....then it's just spicy with a hit of leather and some toasty nuts. If the inner city were effected, I'd feel some remorse, but W. LA. Palisades, Brentwood, etc....suck my toe.
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