Robby
23 years ago
heh, very interesting "don't get in to an argument". I have done nothing more than state my opinions and rendered very level headed logic to backup my points of view. Yes, Mike evidently felt that this was some sort of attack, he may be having a bad day, but I'm not "fighting". People can disagree without fighting, more should. (although that sore breast remark could be seen as a thumb in the eye… I just love that one though. It’s intent is to make one consider the emotion of their position rather than a dry detached evaluation of the facts.) it’s an arena of ideas and opinions. I have ideas and opinions. Others do to. I don’t feel threatened by theirs and they shouldn’t feel that from me or anyone else either…
Charlie
23 years ago
He is one of my favorite atheletes and I will not comment until after this has been fully investigated and they have a trial!

Charlie
DrMaddVibe
23 years ago
I will say that over the weekend I saw a report where they did collect evidence with a "rape kit" and there was some torn clothes. Today it was reported that the girl isn't doing this for money. She wants to see a criminal put in jail.

Tobasco
23 years ago

Robby, nothing you can do will ever make me feel theatened. I dont get intimited very easily. I just see how you like to debate on and on about any crazy crap. You have NOTHING to back your points.

I dont have time to fool with you or others that cant just except my view and move on. Especially since all you are doing is speculating. This issue isnt really very important. If it was, I'd be in your face to the end, well its not, so I dont care.

Mag
Tobasco
23 years ago

Oh, my chest is sore this morning. But thats due to a lot of bench pressing yesterday. Lets not bring up breasts. I have a rock hard "mans" chest. How bout you? Kinda soft arent they?...hehehe!!

Mag
Robby
23 years ago
Mag, sorry if my opinions upset you so much. Take a pill, lighten up. I'll continue to profess them enter in to enjoyable debates with folks on the Misc board. I thought that was half the fun?
Robby
23 years ago
Nothing to back my points other than a young woman (19?) who claims that a man raped her and there is physical evidence which appears to back her claim. Enough so that the DA is seeking an indictment... Yeah, other than that, absolutely nothing...
rasdas
23 years ago
I am a huge Laker fan...and was disappointed in Kobe's behavior after the fact...he could have been a man and fessed up to his adulterous act(s) before he was charged officially...

Could that have hurt his defense...maybe...but not saying anything and hoping it will all go away sure did not help much...

Was it rape or mutually agreed upon???...only him and that 19 year old girl know...

RasDas

Joe
Tobasco
23 years ago


So far the DA hasnt released any of the evidence. Thats what makes it at this point, a he said/she said case. Thats why you have NOTHING but speculation.

The DNA evidence would turn up the same results whether its a rape or concent. Torn clothing doesnt mean jack. She could have done that. Money will make some people do anything to get it.

The "black pass?", hehe...ask Hollywood Henderson or Jim Brown if that worked for them.

This is the last post on this subject, for me. Its not worth my time.

Mag
Robby
23 years ago
He's blood, flesh and bone
No tucks or silicone
He's touch, smell, sight, taste and sound (and grease)
But somehow I can't believe
That anything should happen
I know where I belong
And nothing's gonna happen
'Cause he's so high
High above me, he's so lovely
He's so high, like Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, or Magnifidie…
He's so high, high above me
First class and fancy free
He's high society
He's got the best of everything
What could a guy like me ever really offer?
He's perfect as he can be (rock hard chest and all that…), why should I even bother?
(Chorus)
He posts to speak to me
I freeze immediately
'Cause what he says sounds so unreal
'Cause somehow I can't believe
That anything should happen
I know where I belong
And nothing's gonna happen
(Chorus)
BeatDragon
23 years ago
Robby,

Thats awful...no wonder you never made it as a musician..
Robby
23 years ago
Dragon, I want to send you a tape of my music, then you can judge objectively.
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Robby
23 years ago
Oh nevermind! I think I still have your snailer and a cigar I owe you! I'll send the two off together. Then I'll expect a critique 🙂
BeatDragon
23 years ago
Okie Dokie!

Ya know I was just pullin yer chain!

But I still would like to take a listen to yer music.
Eggman
23 years ago
Guess now we know that "Kobe" stands for

Keep On Boffing Everything



eggman
choner
23 years ago
Here's my two cents, (I'm a huge Laker fan)

Before Kobe admitted anything, I believed he did have sex with her, he's human. His image is damaged, but we should never hold famous people above us. And, adultery is not rare, more common then most people would like to believe. (Jordan and Magic both committed it.) Remember, he's an athlete, he puts a ball in a hoop, and gets paid a lot for entertaining us. That's all, nothing more then what we are, he isn't better then us just because he speaks two languages or likes reading poetry. I believe if a celebrity is even semi-smart, the public puts them on this pedestal and blows it out of proportion.

Okay, now on the adultery issue, that's for him and his family to deal with it. On a side note, I have heard rumors that Kobe's wife has had some boyfriends during their marraige too. Its just a rumor, but it was from a decent source. Again take it as serious as you want, it might just be bogus, but if the news breaks with this story, you know where you heard it first. And also, Kobe's father had been against this marriage because he said the two were still too young. They had a slight falling out over this event.

On the rape issue, it will be down to a "he said, she said" ordeal. Their will be two stories. You decide which one is true. The facts that we know are that they had been flirting. She came to his room. They had sexual intercourse. She went the next morning to the authoritives to report the rape.

On another side note, after seeing the evidence and circumstances in the Mike Tyson rape case, I believe that Tyson was innocent. He even refused to settle, and he served his time. His sentence would of been reduced if he bargained, but he was so adamant about his innocense, he did not want her to take money for something he didn't do. I'm not a Tyson fan at all, but if you look at that case, you might have the same conclusion as I. It came down to a "he said, she said thing", and the jury believed her. Remember, she came to his room at 2 o'clock at night after he called her. I hope she wasn't expecting to play scrabble.

With this Kobe case, I'll follow it, but its not going to comsume me, because life goes on. NBA starts with Kobe or without him (but my Lakers would be better off with him). I hope justice is served and the truth found. I hope the girl gets fair treatment in this case, because Kobe is big time and that can hamper the fairness of the trial.

I have heard people complain about the DA and the officers that arrested Kobe, and that Kobe was treated unfairly, thats just b@llsh*t. A 19 year old female reported a rape. The accused is one of the biggest b-ball plaers out there. The DA must take his time with a accusation of this magnitude and this much public interest. He must review the evidence and be sure he can win the case. Kobe was never bothered by the way he was treated. He will now have to convince a jury of his innocence. If he can't, his how life will be turned upside down.

And I think this case might just be settled outside of court. That just might be the best for both parties, but it would be a shame if a crime was actually committed.

choner
Robby
23 years ago
"And, adultery is not rare, more common then most people would like to believe."

choner, if I was a carpenter, and you were a lady? Oh nevermind.
DrMaddVibe
23 years ago
Choner, could you get me courtside tickets? Same section as Jack. I've got this great screenplay for a Chinatown sequel...
cooksta2
23 years ago
I guess we'll wait and see but the adultery is putting focus off of the subject and attempting to defang the rape charge. The monetary influence and spin is only in the favor of one person involved in this incident. Of course, the defense will seek characer flaws but so will the prosecutors. So, hopefully it will not turn into a media based racial fest of jurors. Either way Kobe' image is affected and will never totally recover even if he is innocent, maybe close, but never fully. Basketball players sure seem to have graabed the most negative press this year. We'll have to wait and see what football brings but it will be hard to beat
Robby
23 years ago
Carlton Dotson charged with the murder of Patrick Dennehy? How can this be? He's a basketball player, right? They don't commit crimes?
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