cwilhelmi
22 years ago
excerpt from www.veteransforclark2004.us

As veterans we have served our country in defense of a way of life that Americans cherish. Over the past three years we have seen much of that being threatened. We have seen our economy virtually destroyed, our educational system raped along with hard fought for environmental laws being systematically repealed. We have a justice department that is ripping up our constitutional rights in the name of Homeland Security and we have a President who has wrapped himself in the flag and used the tragedy of 9/11 to implement military conquest in lieu of diplomacy and engagement. And finally we have seen our sons and daughters and brothers and sisters on active duty put in harms way, many to return in the dark, and many more returning with lifelong wounds that will require care in Veterans Hospitals around the country. Care that has been cruelly cut by this administration.



We believe that fellow retiree, General Wesley Clark has this ability to change all that. Clark is also a Southern Democrat, has an unbeatable record on national security, progressive on social issues (pro-choice, supports affirmative action), brilliant academic background and accomplished professional career. He's highly articulate, and has a telegenic persona (as evidenced by his frequent appearances as a national security consultant on CNN during the Iraqi War).

Career highlights:
General Wesley K. Clark is one of the nation's most distinguished retired military officers. During his thirty four years of service in the United States Army, he held numerous staff and command positions, rising to the rank of 4-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander.

From 1997 through May of 2000, General Clark was NATO Supreme Allied Commander and Commander in Chief of the United States European Command. In this position, General Clark commanded Operation Allied Force, NATO's first major combat action, which saved 1.5 million Albanians from ethnic cleansing in Kosovo.

From 1996 to 1997 General Clark served as Commander in Chief of the United States Southern Command, Panama, where he was responsible for the direction of U.S. military activities in Latin America and the Caribbean.

From 1994 to 1996, he served as Director for Strategic Plans and Policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff with responsibilities for worldwide U.S. military strategic planning.

General Clark is a 1966 graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point where he graduated first in his class. He holds a Masters Degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics from Oxford University where he was a Rhodes Scholar.

General Clark is a recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards, including the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart. He has received honorary Knighthoods from the British and Dutch governments and was made a commander of the French Legion of Honor. In August 2000, General Clark was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor.
THL
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22 years ago
Another liberal idealogue.....ho hum. This is one Viet-Nam vet who is decidedly anti-Clark.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
THL - for what reasons?
kccody
22 years ago
Being that I have served the last 19 years in the military I would whole heartedly NOT support this clown......
THL
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22 years ago
No matter his credentials, his words are just variations on the themes touted by other Dems. The opening paragraph you chose illustrates that perfectly. As a member of 2 veterans' organizations I will tell you that his candidacy has virtually no support of the rank and file of those organizations. The name of his website is offensive to us,www.veteransforclark2004.us ; what are there about 6 veterans that support him? Yet he's trying to market his veteran status so as to appear to have widespread support.
We may not agree with everything "W" has done, but generally, we support him. Clark is rightfully regarded as a Clinton toadie and liberal apostle.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
THL - thanks for the clarification.

He did not setup this website, as it clearly states it was setup by a grass roots group of veterans who support him.
JonR
22 years ago
Yo cwilhelmi: You will never make a good comedian, you set up the joke and then never delivered the punchline. Let me see if I can help. Here's the punchline, " Wesley Clark ". Don't bother to thank me I'm always glad to help out. PS.. Mares eat oats and Does eat oats and "little lambs eat ivy " a kid will eat ivy too wouldn't you. JonR
THL
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22 years ago
cwilhelmi:
Please, you can't be so naive as to believe that every facet of his candidacy is not being orchestrated by professional campaign managers. I guess some of their employees may be veterans; lol.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
THL - That site is very simple and obviously not professionally designed, also it's one of MANY sites that are setup by individuals showing support for candidates with no real affiliation. Are you so naive as to believe that every website endorsing a certain candidate is under their control?

JonR - Again with the sheep fetish, you need to get out more... I would love to meet you in person and discuss politics, it would probably be quite enlightening for you...
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
By the way JonR, thanks for commenting with your usual drivel which in effect adds nothing to the discussion. It's nice to be able to count on some things...
Homebrew
22 years ago
Iam one conservative, who will cross the line, and vote for Clark. The patriot act, and Rumsfield have turned me off to this president, and no republican will run against him. What choice do I have????
I also know the man. Have met him on several occasions, including the dinner table, at my fathers house. He is a centrist, who is also not a man to be controlled by his party. He is a true leader, unlike the spoiled rotten brat that George W. Bush has turned out to be.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. And no I am not a veteran, but I rent a room to one, who totally is behind General Clark. And my father is a veteran, who also agrees with Clark.
THL
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22 years ago
cwilhelmi: I'm probably more cynical than naive, I guess. Pls don't be offended, I chose my words poorly and shouldn't have suggested naivte` on your part.
I have a deep mistrust for all politicians and an instinctive dislike for people who strive to lead no matter their party affilliations. I even thought the kids who wanted to be on the Student Council were jerks. Every election is to me a choice between evils. At the moment conservatives offend me slightly less; although I'm not thrilled with the Patriot Act either.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
THL - Gotcha, and I agree completely, except that I'm a little more on the liberal side regarding social issues.

The thing I like about Clark is that he can actually back up his talk, and that he speaks his mind.
GTofMurphy
22 years ago
Wasn't he fire by Clinton?
GT
THL
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22 years ago
At least that's his well studied schtik. See? There goes my cynicism again.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
I don't consider his resume to be schtik(sp), he's earned the respect he's given. Unlike some others...
Homebrew
22 years ago
In a recent Blind Bio poll,
Clark Beat Bush, by over 9 percentage points. This is a blind Bio poll, the names of the cadidates were not mentioned, just their credentials. Sounds like he will not be a flash in the pan. This election, the ameican people are looking for someone who will not sell their country, to the highest bidder. They will not accept a lock step party member either. They are looking for a fresh viewpoint. I believe that General Clark is that man.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
arjay
22 years ago
Gen. Wesley Clark is being praised by Democrats as a man of keen intellect and sound judgment, but a top military commander who served under him in the Kosovo War said he had to overrule the former NATO commander out of fear he was about to start World War III.

When Gen. Clark got word that Russian forces were about to occupy the Serbian airport at Pristina, he ordered British Lt. Gen. Michael Jackson to parachute troops onto the tarmac to confront the Red Army.

Gen. Jackson flatly refused to obey Clark's direct command, reportedly telling the general-turned-presidential candidate, "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you."

Gen. Jackson isn't the only military man who has expressed concern that the would-be president is something of a loose cannon.

At the height of the war Gen. Clark held a news conference, without clearing it with the Pentagon, where he admitted that Slobodan Milosevic had succeeded in sending reinforcements into Kosovo. The comment prompted a call from Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Hugh Shelton.

According to Thursday's Washington Times, Shelton barked at Clark: "The secretary of defense asked me to give you some verbatim guidance, so here it is. Get your f@@king face off the TV."
arjay
22 years ago
Yes, General Clark was fired by Pres Clinton. i.e. he was forced to take early retirement. As supreme commander of NATO he was very much involved in and ultimatlely responsible for the decision not to move heavy tanks and dragon ships into Somalia when the Clinton administration ramped up the American military presense after the 92 election. As a result, 18 Army Rangers were brutally murdered in Mogadishu. See "Blackhawk Down" if you want to know what that was like.

Frankly, I think he's another tool of the Clintons. Kind of like Janet Reno was, and many others. Read a bit more about this subject in the next few weeks/months and I think you'll find more than you care to know.
usahog
22 years ago
arjay, welcome aboard first of all...

myself... I'm reading up more and more on Clark.. I want to know what makes the Man himself... I've been impressed with what inof I am catching on him... yes I've heard and read most of both sides of the Issues on him... and I can see where your postings look something like the Trials on Oly North... Swartzkof (sp) was also asked to step down (Retire) after Publicly Saying he wasn't finished yet in 1991....
Who's to say Weasly Clark isn't that Strong Leadership we need in the Whitehouse... you know the Type... The Buck Stops Here!!!!????

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